King has become Jehovah... oops

by proplog2 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • hybridous
    hybridous
    he gives us a glimpse at the embryonic stage of an organization like the one Russell started (and Jim Jones).


    I was hoping that you could go a bit farther into what you mean by this.

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    I suspect that maybe a couple thousand JWs will actually read King's book, and a few hundred might be convinced of at least parts of it. Most JWs today I don't think are very concerned with prophecy and live in a dream-like "everything will be OK" state, trying not to think too hard about how terrible the tribulation and Armageddon are supposed to be. The 1/1/1989 Watchtower says that 3,592,654 JWs reported field service time in the 1988 Service Year, when the Revelation Climax book came out (the latest most graphic apocalyptic publication) so at least half the number of JWs today have come into the organization in the last 15 years, and likely they didn't come in because they were impressed with "the generation of 1914" or "Armageddon's right around the corner."

    H2O is short for Hourglass2 Outpost. It was a JW-oriented discussion board that had its original intent on ways of reforming the organization. It came into existence in August of 1996 and soon became THE place to discuss JW topics. I joined it in January of 1997. The reform idea pretty much died by June of 1997 and H2O evolved into more of a debate board (e.g. creationists vs. evolutionists, trinitarians vs. unitarians, etc.). The forum admin "Rick" was a rather eclectic fellow and always had difficulty with his Forum Participation Policy and how he and his moderators would enforce it. Around April of 2001 Rick changed the board's format similar to this one's style, and that sort of killed the "feel" of the place, and many of its regulars left it and came here, leaving only a few behind (like JCanon). I honestly don't know what its status is now, or if it is still alive. I have almost every post made there from Aug. '96 to Mar/April '01 on CD-ROM thanks to Joe Malik who compiled it all and sent me copies.

  • sf
    sf

    Here are some archived Guestbook entries over the years @h20:

    H2O Guestbook Archives

  • Guestbook archived on 04-19-2001 (1 of 2)
  • Guestbook archived on 04-19-2001 (2 of 2)
  • Guestbook archived on 08-23-2001 (1 of 1)
  • Guestbook archived on 05-12-2002 (1 of 1)
  • Guestbook archived on 11-21-2002 (1 of 1)
  • Guestbook archived on 07-01-2003 (1 of 1)
  • Guestbook archived on 03-11-2004 (1 of 1)
  • sf
    sf

    Oh the memories. Hey Robert, it's fun going back in time, isn't it brother?

    Jehovah's Witnesses Issues

    Hourglass2Outpost Archives [ just a few that were "choice meals" to indulge in ] :

    http://libr75.8k.com/

    WTS not Y2K Compatible

    WTS says GOD IS AN E.T !!!!

    YK- Jesus or Satan who is it-

    You Know Answer

    You Know vs. the WTS

    Have fun now! And be sure to make plenty of popcorn.

    sKally

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    Heh, thanks skally. I liked seeing what I wrote in reply oh so long ago. 1999 was a banner year for Robert. His Y2K postings were brilliant, and his post-Y2K LaRouche posts were nearly as fun.

  • sf
    sf

    FYI to the seekers and lurkers:

    That URL (in above post) is more than just about Robert King and his 'antics'. Please avail yourselves to all the topics listed therein.

    sKally

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    Cygnus:

    When we were on the AOL message board there was a woman who was pretty well versed in the Church Fathers.

    I can't remember her screen name. Do you remember it. Do you know what happened to some of those people.

    There were some real scholars on there. (Apokrisis/Greg). Caraban?

  • proplog2
    proplog2

    Hybridous:

    Religious movements often have charismatic visonaries at their core. No doubt Jesus was of that type. They can really spin. They are the entrepreneurs in the relgious realm. Before they know it their brand of "preachin" catches on. They usually don't arrange for a smooth transition after their exit because they really believe they will be able to pull strings after they pass on to the next world. Jesus did a pretty good job because he was a Jew and they know how to set up a propsperous enterprise.

    If King starts to get funds he will be on his way. Kind of like Armstrong and the World Wide Church of God. There have been a lot of these guys.

    I agree somewhat with Cygnus. Right now JW's are in a kind of holding pattern - they don't want to think too deeply. But King could pick up quite a following in 2014 if he's still pushing his stuff. There will be a lot of people looking for something right about then.

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    prop, darn you, now I'm struggling to remember her name too. Apok was Greg Stafford, and Corbancan (Andrew) is the other JW you're thinking of. I wonder if he still hangs out with Greg. I haven't talked to him in probably 2.5-3 years.

  • Cygnus
    Cygnus

    I can't imagine how the Watchtower could possibly still say "the time is at hand" in the year 2014. I was thinking of this earlier. It's been about 8 1/2 years since I quit being a JW. Like Simon mentioned somewhere else, when will I be an ex-ex-JW? I kinda hope that in another 8.5 years I won't think about Watchtower crap too much, but I guess it would be interesting to see what happens to the organization/rank and file 100 years after the Gentile Times ended and 40 years after 1975.

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