Do we have the holy spirit?

by coolhandluke 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5


    ok (I knew I should have taken notes)

    The title of the sermon was "Jesus' Best Friend" and the book we are looking to is 1 John.

    This is what I remember. John was very close to Jesus, so close that Jesus entrusted his mother to John before his death and loved John like a brother.

    Then we went on the cover certain scriptures from 1 John which I didnt not write down (kicking myself) but we were given the assignment to read the books of John.

    Wish I could be more helpful, but what I can say about the sermon and reading the books of John is that it is uplifting.

    1 John 5
    Faith in the Son of God
    1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. 2 This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. 3 This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, 4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

    6 This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the [ a ] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9 We accept man's testimony, but God's testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

    Josie

  • coolhandluke
    coolhandluke

    Thanks Josie.

    Derrick. Thanks for the point in the right direction. I guess I'm still in that stage of trying to understand just what those commands are!

  • defd
    defd

    I think one of (not the only one) is the one Jesus said..... You must love Jehovah God with your whole heart and soul and strength.......that one would be for starters.....also the one Jehovah gave himself .....This is my son, LISTEN to him.....

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    I found something that is rather interesting about the first book of John:

    Book of 1 John

    Author: 1, 2, and 3 John have from earliest times been attributed to John the apostle, who wrote the fourth gospel. The content, style, and vocabulary seem to warrant the conclusion that these three epistles were addressed to the same readers as the gospel of John.

    Date of Writing: 1 John was likely written between A.D. 85-95.

    Purpose of Writing: The Book of 1 John seems to be a summary that assumes the readers' knowledge of the gospel as written by John and offers certainty for their faith in Christ. The first epistle indicates that the readers were confronted with the error of Gnosticism, which became a more serious problem in the second century. As a philosophy of religion it held that matter is evil and spirit is good. The solution to the tension between these two was knowledge, or gnosis, through which man rose from the mundane to the spiritual. In the gospel message this led to two false theories concerning the person of Christ- Docetisn, regarding the human Jesus as a ghost, and Cerinthianism, making Jesus a dual personality, at times human and at times divine. The key purpose of 1 John: to set boundaries on the content of faith and to give believers assurance of their salvation.

    Key Verses: 1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."

    1 John 3:6, "No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him."

    1 John 4:4, "You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world."

    1 John 5:13, "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."

    Brief Summary: False spiritual teachers were a big problem in the early church. Because there was not a complete New Testament that believers could refer to, many churches fell prey to pretenders who taught their own ideas and advanced themselves as leaders. John wrote this letter to set the record straight on some important issues, particularly concerning the identify of Jesus Christ.

    Because John's letter was about the basics of faith in Christ, it helped his readers reflect honestly on their faith. It helped them answer the question, Are we true believers? John told them that they could tell by looking at their actions" If they loved one another, that was evidence of god's presence in their lives. But if they bickered and fought all the time or were selfish and did not look our for one another, they were betraying that they, in fact, did not know God.

    That did not mean they had to be perfect. In fact, John also recognized that believing involved admitting our sins and seeking God's forgiveness. Depending on God for cleansing from guilt, along with admitting our wrongs against others and making amends, was another important part of getting to know God.

    Practical Application: The book of 1 John is a book of love and joy. It explains the fellowship we have with others and with Jesus Christ. It differentiates between happiness and joy. True joy is something we all seek. We all want it. 1 John tells us exactly how to get it. We take the words written by John and we apply them to our daily lives. Why? We long for true love, commitment, fellowship, and joy. In our daily lives we have so many things pulling us in different directions. We sometimes feel lost and overwhelmed.

    However, this is not what Christ wants for any of us. The apostle John is a disciple who knew Christ well. He is telling us that we can all have that close intimate relationship with Jesus Christ. We have the witness of men who had direct and personal contact with Him. The gospel writers present their solidly based testimony on a historical reality. Now, how does that apply to our lives? It explains to us that Jesus came here as the Son of God to create a union with us based on His grace, mercy, love, and acceptance. That applies to our lives on a daily basis! So many times people think Jesus is off in some far away place and that He doesn't really concern Himself with our daily struggles, issues, and concerns.

    Wrong! This is what John is trying to tell us. Jesus is right there with you in both the simple, mundane parts of our lives and in the complex, soul wrenching parts of our lives. John teaches us that Christ is the believer's life. It is only as a person has Christ in his life that he is able to have true fellowship with Him. John testifies as a witness of his personal experiences that God became flesh and lived among men. That means Christ came here to live with us. He still lives with us! He walks through each and every day of our lives. He is still with us! We need to apply this truth to our lives and live as if Jesus was standing right next to us every second of the day. Put this truth into practice and day by day you will be adding holiness to your life and becoming more and more like Jesus Christ.

    Recommended Resources: The Letters of John, NIV Application Commentary by Gary Burge.

    1 & 2 Peter through Jude: Holman New Testament Commentary by David Walls.

    The Epistles of John, New International Commentary on the New Testament by I. Howard Marshall.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-1-John.html
  • OldSoul
    OldSoul

    Jesus was an apostate and he sought out those who had been expelled for apostasy, did he have Holy Spirit? (John 9:1-10:18) That should stuff a cob in your friend's yob for him to chew on a while.

    Apostasy is in the eye of the beholder.

    Respectfully,
    OldSoul

  • RevFrank
    RevFrank

    CoolHandLuke:...worry not, "But you are not in hte flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells within you.Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." (Romans 8:9)

    So basically speaking, if the Holy Spirit is not within you, you're lost.

    And just another note..."There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Jesus Christ, who do not walk according to the flesh, but accoring to the Spirit."(Romans 8:1.....)

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