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  MY DAD WANTS TO STUDY WITH THE KIDS

  by thebigdebate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am in good standing (of sorts) with the wts.

  i have not gone out in service for 10 years - i have not been to a meeting in about 2 years - i skipped last years memorial.

  my dad is a pioneer and elder.

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  WuzLovesDubs

  So what did you end up telling daddy dearest?
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  Witness Wife Seeks Divorce Because JW Husband Hits Her & Mentally Abuses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so she went into the refuge of her elder grandfather who has taken care of her and the 2 kids.

  but the other elders told him that because she was getting an unscriptural divorce and the husband was in denial about being abusive, he had to kick her and the grand kids out or else lose his eldership.

  (he has taught elder's school and is highly regarded).. so grandpa gave them the news that they have to get out!

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  WuzLovesDubs

  It might be difficult for her at first Min...but it sounds to me like she needs to get the hell away from ALL of these wackos and make a normal life for her and her child.

  There are agencies out there to help her get started and I hope she finds them.
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  Fox News: Two days into Obama's Administration and WERE ALL GOING TO DIE!

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as jon stewart put it: fox news really scared about what might happen, oblivious to what allready has.. .

  http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoid=216561&title=fox-news-fear-imbalance.

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  WuzLovesDubs

  Hey Elsewhere you're from Texas. You didn't like W?

  Please don't remind people of that!

  First we gave you the Kennedy Assassination ... then Bush.

  We here in Florida gave the ENTIRE COUNTRY Bush!! talk about wanting to HIDE
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  What are your weekends like now?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  compare and contrast.. my weekends as a jw;.

  saturday.

  stressing to get the kids ready in time to get out to meet the fs group.

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  WuzLovesDubs

  Mine started on Fridays. I would hate Fridays because I knew Saturday and Sunday were coming and my time wasnt my own. I mean who hates Fridays?? When I was still in and going to meetings, I had a newborn, a four year old and a 6 year old. They were VERY well behaved kids but you can imagine the guilt I felt having to drag them out in service on a beautiful Saturday morning when their friends were all up and down the street playing basketball, or dolls, or riding their bikes. I would envy the neighbor out sweating in the sun mowing his yard and trimming his bushes while his wife was in the garden tending the veggetables or going to the store to buy groceries. Thats ALL I wanted to do...have the choice to do ANYTHING ELSE but go out in service and bother people. I felt guilty NOT going and felt guilty NOT going enough and felt guilty NOT preparing and NOT wanting to be there at all....guilt guilt guilt. I was one of those sloth JWs who walked 1 mph down the street praying nobody would be home and praying for the time to end and praying somebody else had a long return visit we could go on to kill the morning. In winter in Illinois when it was snowy, sub zero and miserable....multiply all the above by 100.

  And repeating that process on Sundays...making the kids sit through HOURS AND HOURS of adult talks about adult subjects and not being allowed to let them color or look at their bible story books or do anything but sit there. And afterwards all I wanted to do was LEAVE that building. And all my husband wanted to do was flit about the hall being Mr. Sociable. And HE never was the one to wash, dress, feed and take care of...those children before and during those meetings. Including afterwards. He never read an article. Never underlined anything...and we NEVER got along when we were going door to door because he always thought he could handle the discussion better than I did and even at "my doors" he would butt in and take over. It was a nightmare. Wash, rinse, repeat....every weekend. (not to mention having to drag ourselves and our kids out the door every TUESDAY and THURSDAY night TOO!!)

  Now that I am out...he doesnt go to ANY meetings either but he is still "in" though how he is still "in" is beyond me. I now have a job that takes me out of the house from 2-9 or 2-6:30 on both days but the kids have been in baseball, basketball, dance, chess club, engineering club, honor society, volunteering, dating, birthday parties, getting jobs and doing whatever else they have WANTED TO DO since I left in 1997. They have thrived and grown and are happy, well adjusted loving people now. And like today, we slept in til 10. Had coffee and muffins. Im doing some geneaology research, drinking my coffee, reading JWN, enjoying a beautiful South Florida winter day...and except for worrying wherre the economy is taking me, my time and my thoughts are allll my own and nobody is expecting me anywhere. And that includes church. The kids are going to the South Florida Fair today and will be having a BALL.

  As for my JW husband...I think he is relieved that I left and his kids could have a normal life. And I think I have given him the excuse not to go any more himself. And he is upstairs working on our second story, building things with his hands, his time is his own too. The guilt...he has to deal with that part of it on his own. I have ZERO guilt about leaving that cult.
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  What do you believe about Hell?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to go along with my trinity thread, i don't believe in hellfire, probably because of my jw upbringing (and common sense).

  i have no problem with the idea of an immortal soul or a heavenly hope but the idea of people being tortured forever seems just silly.

  so, what is your view of hell?.

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  WuzLovesDubs

  Hell is like when your parents tell you that the Boogie Man is under your bed and if you get OUT of bed again, he is going to GRAB YOU and EAT YOU. And you dont dare get out of bed because you dont want to test that theory. What if theyre RIGHT?? But you cant SEE him there...but what if he only comes out in darkness? What if he only appears when your FOOT hits the ground?

  So you are scared into submission because of a "what if".

  There is no hell. There is no heaven either. There is no magical place out there waiting for our souls to float up to it. And no place of eternal punishment for us either. But you gotta admit...its been a pretty effective tool for controlling the masses all these millenia.
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  Sin

  by desib77 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is along the same lines as the hell post and is also a serious question.. how do you view sin?

  especially those of you are are christians?

  for example, if i do something that i know is wrong but make the choice to do it anyway is that an "unpardonable sin" (ref.

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  WuzLovesDubs

  "Sin" is something your conscience tells you is wrong to do. And so every one has a different list in that regard. Some dont have any lists at all. To some, eating meat on Friday was a sin, and to the JWs taking blood transfusions is a sin, and in the middle east somewhere, killing sacred cows is a sin and somewhere else walking over graves is a sin...

  So my question would be...does a Creator get all involved in keeping track of what various religions teach is sin and adhere to that and punish each adherent according to their beliefs? Why would He? And where are the lines? Are there big sins, little sins, kinda sins, sins of the heart, sins of thought, sins of the eye...where would He start? If people were punished for ANY kinds of sins by the Creator...none of us, whom he created this way, would EVER reap any rewards in any paradise anywhere. It would be impossible to please him and toe that line. We are doomed to fail.

  Nope...there are no guidelines about what God wants or doesnt want of us. We have created our own parameters of what is right and wrong and those limitations are different for every single person that ever existed.

  You punish yourself enough for going against your conscience. God doesnt need to. Nor does He.
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  Sorry, I need your help

  by wobble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  dear all,.

  i know this has been covered,but my pioneer sister said in a letter to me about what convinces her dubs have the truth,re the worldwide preaching of hope of life on a paradise earth, "who else does that?".

  now i know other religions teach a kingdom on earth,but she will say they don't preach that worldwide.. could you give me some ammo.

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  The Mormons also preach worldwide. Their coverage is extensive. In fact...they even baptize dead people into Mormonism. Which goes to show ya, just because something is preached or told on a global scale doesnt make it either truth or fact or...Christian for that matter.

  13% of the world was Christian in 2005 and the JWs discount all of those people as even BEING Christian since they claim they alone are the only Christians. So there are what...only 7 million JWs now with a 1.3% (and dropping) increase in their membership? There are 6.75 billion people and counting on the planet. So thats 877 million people who are supposed to be Christians and only 7 million of those are JWs.

  The Society has already said that those countries who are not allowing the preaching work by the JWs, will be destroyed at Armageddon. And all those who live in and by default "support" those opposing governments, will be destroyed, deservedly so, at Armageddon. So they dont have to worry about actually PREACHING to each individual and trying to save them...their actions (by virtue of the fact that they were born and live in those opposing countries) will be their just demise. I got to tell you...I was REALLY upset when I heard that explanation. That was the answer given when Matthew 24:14 was questioned about the plausibility of actually preaching this Good News to All the inhabited earth...before the end comes. If its an impossibility..then they just make shit up to cover themselves.

  They preach all around the world? So do many many other religions. But the OTHER Christian religions preach that the CHRIST will save people not membership to the Watchtower Society...and therein lies the difference. The Society thinks that becoming a JW somehow gives people the E-ticket to live through Armageddon. Whenever a JW says that they dont know if a non JW will live through Armageddon that God will read those peoples hearts...they are FLAT OUT lying to your face. They know damn well their literature says SPECIFICALLY that anyone who is NOT a baptized JW in GOOD STANDING will not live through Armageddon. They know it, we know it and you know it.

  Last time I checked, the bible said "whoseoever believeth in HIM shall never perish but have eternal life" ...not whosever carry-eth a blood directive card.
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  Witness Wife Seeks Divorce Because JW Husband Hits Her & Mentally Abuses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so she went into the refuge of her elder grandfather who has taken care of her and the 2 kids.

  but the other elders told him that because she was getting an unscriptural divorce and the husband was in denial about being abusive, he had to kick her and the grand kids out or else lose his eldership.

  (he has taught elder's school and is highly regarded).. so grandpa gave them the news that they have to get out!

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  WuzLovesDubs

  Wife abusers are like pedophiles...they are REALLLY good at not letting anyone outside the home know what they do. So when the victim speaks up, nobody believes them. They say the victim must have done something to deserve and provoke it because Brother So and So is just soooo wonderful and spiritual.
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  Rethinking Flight 1549: Was it Terrorism?

  by leavingwt in

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  WuzLovesDubs

  You forgot the tiny little vests with the C4 and nails they were wearing under those suspicious feathers. Damn CANADIANS...cant be trusted.
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  "But there are always new ones coming in"

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you've read, seen and heard as many sickening statements uttered by watchtower leaders as i have, you'll probably agree you tend to get jaded by them after a while:.

  russell claiming his books were more important than the bible.

  rutherford boasting that armageddon coming in 1925 was as certain as the flood of noah and virtually "indisputable.".

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  WuzLovesDubs

  I hate that the JWs equate leaving THEM with leaving GOD by saying that when people leave they were "never a part of us anyway and should be shunned. As long as they claim that they and they ALONE are the only Christians, they can apply those scriptures that say to shun people who leave and that those who leave THEM go into darkness.

  Its a brilliant way to control and manipulate and guilt and humiliate trusting people into subservience to them. Those classless idiots running this organization are only in it for themselves. They get a free ride for life and dont have to do a damn thing but whip the slaves.