Good logical obvious (to those who think) points. Plus the bible speaks of the Bereans as having gone through scripture to verify all that they were told.
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Reasoning on the New "1900 Years" JW Theology (from David Splane)
by FusionTheism ininspired by the three recent threads on david splane's new video declaring, among other things, that there was no faithful slave for 1900 years, and there may not have even been any genuine anointed ones during those years, i decided to make this post.. here are the three previous threads on this topic:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/337200001/david-splane-address-bethelites.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/323160001/new-david-splane-video-no-1900-year-faithful-slave.
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Article in Australian newspaper regarding jw shunning and charity
by umbertoecho inthis may have been posted before.
however, if you want to read the article about jw shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read.
there is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.. http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
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umbertoecho
This a portion of the newspaper article
Late last year the federal government set up a body called the Australian Charities and Not For Profits Commission (ACNC) to regulate charities with tax-exemptions. It can de-register charities. A treasury spokesman said the government could soon redefine charities and boost their requirement for 'public benefit.'
"At the moment groups like the Jehovah's Witnesess and Scientology are subsidised by the taxpayer," Senator Xenophon said. He said the French government's cultbusting agency Miviludes had been effective.
Victoria's current state inquiry into how churches handle child sex abuse has submissions from former Jehovah's Witnesses. One includes allegations of rape, sexual assault, blackmail and death threats. Others include allegations of paedophilia.
A spokesman for the church in Australia, Sydney solicitor Vincent Toole, dismissed the allegations and said shunning was a"myth."
Mr Aron, who has written two books on cults and has investigated them for thirty years, said the Jehovah's Witnesses were an outwardly benign group but they withheld information from potential recruits. Jehovah's Witnesses cannot celebrate Christmas, Easter or birthdays. They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, sing the natiuonal anthem or salute the national flag.
"They come to your door on a Sunday morning and you have a wonderful discussion about God but they never tell you that once entrenched in the religion you may never be able to say happy birthday to your children again."
They don't celebrate birthdays because they say there are no birthdays in the Bible, which Aron, an observant Jew, maintains is not true. "There's no Moomba in the Bible either," he says. "And no football. Does that mean we shouldn't do those things either?"
Jehovah's Witnesses believe they have God's messages to themselves, that all other religions are wrong, that the end of the world will come and only those in 'The Truth' will survive. They have predicted the end of the world five times. They also believe Satan has ruled the earth since 1914.
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David Splane address bethelites
by rosesinbloom ini did not write this piece.
i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.
hope some of you enjoy it too.
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umbertoecho
It reads as though it came from a site called " Berean Pickets". A really good site with excellent commentary about the watchtower studies and other topics. Probably spelled that incorrectly. The main writer is Meleti Vivlon; an ex elder who stepped down. There are others that write for the site and it's open for discussion to those who join. -
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How Would a JW Respond to . . .
by ABibleStudent inreading archbishop resigns after archdiocese charged with coverup article?.
archbishop john nienstedt, deputy resign after archdiocese of st. paul and minneapolis charged with sex abuse coverup.
| by nicole winfield.
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umbertoecho
My JW family would be drooling and dribbling with relish at the thought of such negative exposure for the Catholic Church. But!!! They would deny, deny, deny.......that there is any such problem within their religion. They would all rush to their tablets and bring jw.org up and prove they were spiritually clean by reading the orgs view of "other" religions and their failings. That is exactly what happens. -
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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate
by OrphanCrow inthis interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.
lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.
so who is lorenz reibling?
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umbertoecho
These men mentioned in this Australian newspaper, are making a fortune in pharmacy
driven alternatives to blood. They have influenced the amount of blood used in
hospitals, regardless of your; religious affiliation. I think the article above lends credence
to the "chilling" sort of feeling people get when they feel manouvred by some combined
group with too much influence
www.perthnow.com.au/news/...australia/...blood.../story-fnhocxo3-1226
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Article in Australian newspaper regarding jw shunning and charity
by umbertoecho inthis may have been posted before.
however, if you want to read the article about jw shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read.
there is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.. http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
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umbertoecho
Yes, the man lies barefaced about shunning. Incredible, considering the evidence of a shunning practice can quite easily be found in their own literature.
And, yes, it would be brilliant if the charities commission took a better look at what really constitutes a "charity".
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Article in Australian newspaper regarding jw shunning and charity
by umbertoecho inthis may have been posted before.
however, if you want to read the article about jw shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read.
there is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.. http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.
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umbertoecho
This may have been posted before. I'm not sure. However, if you want to read the article about JW shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read. There is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html
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Gates of Hades will not overpower the Congregation? 1900 Years with NO Congregation??
by FusionTheism inmatthew 16:18: also, i say to you: you are peter, and on this rock i will build my congregation, and the gates of the grave will not overpower it.. and yet, the very latest david splane video on tv.jw.org says there was no faithful slave for 1900 years and no true congregation, and perhaps not even any anointed living.. how does this scripture make any sense then?.
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umbertoecho
Infact. There were no people before............them. Not 'real' people anyway.
That was a wonderful mistake the society made; putting this David Splane chap up there denouncing everything for the past 1,900 years.
This doctrine is going to plague them in it's insupportable arrogance and lack of scriptural evidence.. I can hardly wait for the comments and counter arguments that will follow this splendid video.
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Governing Body Mandating That Parents Shun DF'd Preteens Baptized Children Will Hurt Them Big Time In The Courts
by Brokeback Watchtower inas the bad conduct of the governing body becomes widely known to both judge and jury i expect that will make lawsuits more profitable against them and easier wins against them and more plentiful.. i think probably one of the most damming videos out there on the net is the one where the parents show their loyalty to the wt corporation and shun their own flesh and blood in obedience to it cruel directives.
this video truely shows that the governing body don't give a shit about the children who symbolize their dedication to the corporation or their parents.. such a self serving corporation that uses it members for profits only and offer nothing in return no matter how much how much they claim otherwise.
they can't hide this it is plain as day so no matter how much they claim they are concerned about the youth in the organization their action thunder loudly and can not be hiden under a basket.
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StroneHaiku
I hope we are both right.! And "yes" they do seem to be distant from each other. She looks like she is not coping. This video is out there now as a testimony to this religions real beliefs and actions. No way can this be dressed up and dished out as "loving".
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Last night's bible highlights: David was wrong to greive for his son!
by purrpurr inlast night's bible highlights was really eyebrow raising!
the brother pointed out at lenght about how david had wept when his son absalom was killed.
but that because absalom was killed while opposing jehovah that means that david was wrong and weak to greive for him.. it was applied to today by saying that if our children are df'd when they die then we should not grieve for them either!.
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umbertoecho
Thankyou.
It was a good thing in a way. It was the start of many questions about religion and giving my personal rights away to their authority. It shows that we don't have to rely upon any other group for our spiritual well being. I think these horrid people are worse off than I have ever been. I didn't lose my humanity. They never had it. And as a collective group.........they are losing all credibility as they stomp their way over the feelings of good people within the org and those who could have been persuaded to join.