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  BREAKING NEWS!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  breaking news from co!!

  according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

  what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

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  the phrase, "final push" being used.

  ."Come on now.....one "final push"..........It's a girl!!! Congratulations!!!
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  JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......

  by Alchemist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.

  i've been inactive for 8 years.

  after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.

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  Alchemist.

  By saying that God is not rejecting you, I mean to clarify what I meant. Obviously, you still believe in some part that this is the truth. I would not attack your' thoughts or feelings for one second on this belief or feeling.

  What I am saying though is this. That being rejected by a certain group of people, or feeling neglected by them. Is not a an accurate reflection of what Christ's ministry was about. You don't need to have an "organized" religion to support your' personal belief in God or Christ or what the bible really means.

  And you don't need to please any ecclesiastic body in order to have some sort of redemption. These hierarchies are completely distorted and largely man made.
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  INTERVIEW: with an Elder

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  elder: "i'm not sure i know what you mean by 'diversity.'.

  elder: "well, it's not quite like that.

  elder: "um.

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  The questions you posed to this elder were slanted in a manner that indicated you already had an "opinion" about the JW community. Plus,your fairly strong knowledge of their workings as an organization, would indicate to this man that you had more than a passing interest in doctrine, culture and so on. If that was your intention...ie, to let him know what your position was. Then I would say you achieved your goal.
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  Laughing Lion??? Lastest study article

  by dugout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sh##@t not funny no more.

  comments please

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  That lion is Satan!! And Satan is waiting to use the computer so he can update his face book page!!
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  July Broadcast Scriptural Error- FDS/Helper Fail.

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.

  this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.

  according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.

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  Thanks for that. It's fascinating to read the ........oh so many mis-takes that these people rattle off. They sound like the gibbering, nattering idiots that I read about somewhere in the bible.

  Wish I could remember that scripture now.
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  A difficult yet necessary decision

  by Brother Jeramy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the past five weeks have been perhaps the most painful in my life as a witness.. some months ago a young man (i'd say in his late thirties or early forties) began attending meetings at my kingdom hall.

  he had just moved to my area from another state.

  he had disassociated himself from his home congregation many years back, when he was 20 years old and going through many of the typical trials and temptations most young men experience.. two of the elders met with him initially, and they later shared the details with the body of elders.

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  An acquaintance of mine was re instated within months. Her father is an elder. I always wondered about that. She has been reproved time after time since then.
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  JW's came to my door 6 weeks ago. I told them I was inactive.......

  by Alchemist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  6 weeks ago some jws came to my door.

  i've been inactive for 8 years.

  after they gave their presentation i told them i was inactive.

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  Alchemist.

  First of all...........Every single comment here to you is sound and kind. Please take note of that as you read through the responses. You have not been made to feel foolish or unacceptable by these people on this forum. And your' post was responded too very quickly. Some to ask why and others to offer comfort.........

  You must be interpreting the lack of contact from those who came to your' door as a form of rejection from Jehovah or the Christ....... It's not.

  It is because they are not the sensitive group that you may have thought they were.......Collectively speaking, this religion has changed so much over the past ten years, that you will be shocked at the shallowness of it all.

  You may need to fulfill your' desire to go back to this religion more urgently now. Especially since you have experienced a neglectful lack of interest on their part.

  I sobbed when something like this happened to me, for it happens a lot more than you think. I just want to say that you are not rejected by God, for no human has that right or power. Please stay with this forum and share your' story if it helps..( the bits you are comfortable with)
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  BBC Radio 4. The Report. ''Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse''. Thursday 9th July 8pm.

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs

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  I read all of the Thomas Covenant books. I think I still have them somewhere.

  Anyway, I went to the site and had no problem getting it online from where I am.

  Thank you Thomas
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  Nittygritty, "your hero" exactly what and who are you trying to defend? Are you possibly a pedophile yourself taking sides with criminals? It's pretty disgusting what you stated, and I'm glad as hell I'm not in the same group you associate with.

  Actually, I was thinking the same thing a few hours ago. Either nitty gritty is guilty of some action and wants to hide it. Or, this person is totally cut off from the basics of what is right and wrong. Either way, it is a relief to think that NGrit is not in a position to change or have an effect on policies. There is an incredible lack of compassion or willingness to protect children past or present in his/her comments.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  cultBgone.

  I know exactly how you feel when you find yourself being treated as almost( to my mind) unstable, due to the horror of finding out your' child was abused. They usually don't believe you, not really. And if you are telling the truth, then you are the dangerous one.

  With all my years of life behind me and some to come, I still cannot shake out of my memories how I was forced to study with a brother who was at least 30+. Father would not let me refuse to go, he forced this study on me to make me " a better child". I recall the man's name to this day, I will never forget it. What he liked to do was to drive me halfway to his house and stop somewhere near the coast. I can't go into detail.

  I was 11 and had enough experience, tragically, to know what this man was up to.

  I was not up to protecting myself very well though and the only resource I had was to bolt as fast as I could out of that car and run until I was unable to run any further. I told my mother about what this married brother was doing, begging her not to tell dad. She promised she would keep her word. But she told the worst person in my life, my father.

  I spent that summer in my bedroom, in the stinking heat. I had to say sorry for lying to the overseer in our congregation. I had to put up with being treated less like a young child and more like an animal. My father came in regularly to "correct" me. He had his ways, believe me.

  I can't go on it makes me sick all over again.

  I will say this though. That brother at the kingdom hall, got worse and worse. In the late seventies he was "warned" about his overtures to the young girls in our congregation. That was all that was done.

  I was treated like a delinquent and told I was wicked, evil, filthy minded..........I was definitely going to die at Armageddon. There is so much in my memory about those times as a child and later as a young adult. If I could take my father and that brother to court I would.

  Guess what! I was threatened with court action instead!! I was threatened with every sort of legal action that came to their minds. This is true, every word of it. I had my children by then and had finally fully confronted my father,who would die in a few months time. So much for a child feeling safe and loved. The older and wiser men in the congregation treated me as a very nasty wicked child..............