Some interesting points! That's one of the great thing about humans, we can have different view points, thoughts and ideas.
If you're a jw though, you don't or you'll get yourself DF.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Some interesting points! That's one of the great thing about humans, we can have different view points, thoughts and ideas.
If you're a jw though, you don't or you'll get yourself DF.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Thanks Orphan, I'm an interesting person, what can I say. I feel bad for those that are consumed and are shaped by man made words.
We're all hypocrites. Most haven't realized it yet or can't admit it. When you realize that all of these "bad" words have good and useful traits and vice verse, you'll be better off. You'll be more balanced, in control and equal then you could ever have imagined.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Orphan, I congratulate you on your courageous stand and that you are able to see your own courage and un-hypocritical qualities. It's not for me though. And my ass is quite comfortable, thanks for your concern though.
Am I dishonest with myself if I'm honest that I'm dishonest?
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Every elders meeting and ministerial meeting the CO touches on porn. He even took a moment of silence for anyone to come forward that have viewed these things. A lot of men in positions were squirming in their seats haha. Talk about awkward!
And I've been awake for about 16 years.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Hold me - So dooming a humans life to an evil act that they have no say in is acceptable? Referring to Judas.
Often times the one enforcing the laws and punishment are the ones doing the evil behind the scenes.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
tiki - You're right, I don't mind though. I'm use to hearing that word in JW talks exactly like you just put it.
I also feel hypocrisy is needed/required when getting out of or dealing with this religion. If you're not willing to accept that, it's going to be a lot harder. Also, the only reason hypocrisy is viewed as a bad thing is because that's what we were raised to believe and how society views it. I tend to go outside the box.
Xanthippe - No I'm not. Just not ready to 100% leave yet. In time I will though. Like all moves I make, they're well calculated, planned and patiently executed. I view life like a chess board.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
I agree that there are different types of evil Hold Me. And humans are abot the most evil out of it all.
I do also believe though that evil is all around us and a form of it is needed in the bible.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Oneeted, about 16+ years. I will say though, conventions and assemblies are getting very very hard. Holy crap are they long! I also never said I wasn't an apostate. But most apostates leave because they can't take it. I fall more in line with the "double life" category.
Service is also getting harder. More than 2 hours and I want to jump off a bridge.
Have you guys ever heard anyone call meetings or assemblies "fun"? I have never witnessed one ounce of fun at them.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Sir not to mention entertainment. I've heard a quite a few JW tell me stuff they've watched and I've been shocked.
I think porn is the #1 though.
I think most though do feel very guilty, how could they not? It's stuffed into their head at every meeting. That's the difference though.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Take a virus for example. To us and our cells any virus that enters our body is usually viewed as bad or evil. Our body tries to destroy it. To the virus though, our cells and us are the bad ones or the ones needing to be destroyed.
Is evil, good vs bad more "relative" then we're brought up to believe.