the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Desirous - Your choice was most likely the best choice for you at the time. Don't doubt it. As for your friend that may be the best choice in his mind and I would encourage him not to doubt that either.
Talesin - You are entitled to your opinion and if that is a trait I need at times I will be more than happy to use it. I'm not a glass is half full or glass is half empty type of guy. I'm a "there's water in the glass" type of guy.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Oneeyed, I see what you're saying. People observe all of us and may even base their life and beliefs off of an observation.
We see the president and we have a perception about him. If we come to learn something that is different about that perception we would naturally be hurt.
I completely see your point and concern, and it's a noble one. I don't live my life for others though. Yes that may be hard, but it's an honest truth I have with myself. We're only given so many cards and it's up to us to choose how to play them and make best use of the ones we're given, and who knows, if you have crap cards and bluff you may just take the pot ;-).
Best advice I could give is to not take things at face value. It's often much more complicated then that.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Talesin - My scree name is nothing about me, it's actually about Job haha.
Everything in life is equal, everything has negative and positive aspects. It's up to each person to choose what is more valuable to them and what seems to have the better positives vs negatives for that person.
Right now what I have chosen to do outweighs the negatives in my mind. I want to be very clear, IN MY MIND. It may be the exact opposite for another person.
When the positives no longer outweigh the negatives in my mind I will have no problem making the adjustments and pulling a complete 360 to put myself back into a situation where the positives outweigh the negatives.
Talsein, for you the better option in your mind may have been to leave. Don't ever doubt that and when you make a choice, stick with that choice and have confidence that you made the right decision because that is YOUR choice. It'll help you in the future when you are faced with your next decision. Trust you are making the right decision. If it ends up being the wrong one, use it as a learning tool instead of doubting yourself.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Hold me - But we can never know if he would or would not have been greedy in that situation because it was all stated before hand. You could say it was greed but was it? Did he not need that greed to fulfill prophecy, and was it not stated beforehand that he would be greedy?
“They paid my wages, 30 pieces of silver.” Zech 11:12, 13. His greed was stated before he was even born. Would he have actually been a greedy person? We'll never know.
That's the great thing about the bible, it can be taken 50 different ways and you can argue 50+ different beliefs from it and it's all BS in the end!
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Great point Slidin! As a JW you can't do holidays, oral, yoga, color runs etc... because of pagan origins. Yet, you can do most of the traditional celebrations in a wedding including rings. Yet, all of that stuff has pagan origins!
I'd like to also add that it's impossible to live life without being a hypocrite and most other bad and good traits as man puts it. Honestly, the quicker you realize you have all of these traits at your disposal and you can choose what aspects to apply in different situations, you'll truly be free.
In chess, who do you think will win, the man who only sees the good moves, or the player that sees both good and bad moves for both sides and is able to discern which one needs to be played in that situation?
The religion does display hypocrisy traits. Even more than that they are excellent cherry pickers!
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Some interesting points! That's one of the great thing about humans, we can have different view points, thoughts and ideas.
If you're a jw though, you don't or you'll get yourself DF.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Thanks Orphan, I'm an interesting person, what can I say. I feel bad for those that are consumed and are shaped by man made words.
We're all hypocrites. Most haven't realized it yet or can't admit it. When you realize that all of these "bad" words have good and useful traits and vice verse, you'll be better off. You'll be more balanced, in control and equal then you could ever have imagined.
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Orphan, I congratulate you on your courageous stand and that you are able to see your own courage and un-hypocritical qualities. It's not for me though. And my ass is quite comfortable, thanks for your concern though.
Am I dishonest with myself if I'm honest that I'm dishonest?
the borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
Every elders meeting and ministerial meeting the CO touches on porn. He even took a moment of silence for anyone to come forward that have viewed these things. A lot of men in positions were squirming in their seats haha. Talk about awkward!
And I've been awake for about 16 years.
