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  God & JW can't exist without "evil"

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

  almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

  when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

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  thedepressedsoul

  That would still mean Jesus had to choose one person that would have betrayed him. That means he chose a man who had a weakness or bad tendency just to play on or use that weakness to fulfill prophecy. That "other man" would be just as doomed as Judas without ever know he was chosen to fulfill an evil role. Instead of trying to cure that persons bad tendencies you promote it. What's worse is that you know the person will fail before the person with the weakness ever does. It's like being a heroine addict and someone using that addicted to their advantage or for a purpose.

  The predestination either started when those words were prophesied or when Jesus chose someone knowing they would fulfill that role.
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  thedepressedsoul

  No such thing as a sure bet. There are better percentages, but not a sure bet. You have to discern when to fold, when to bluff and when to go all in. You won't always be right, you definitely will raise your chances though. When you do lose you have to have the confidence that you will get it right even if you just failed.

  What do I care what my headstone has on it. I won't know the difference if it has love or hate on it and neither will anyone else over time.
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  God & JW can't exist without "evil"

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

  almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

  when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

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  thedepressedsoul

  But there are individuals, correct?
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  God & JW can't exist without "evil"

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

  almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

  when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Another point I'd like to raise is that JW don't believe in predestination and yet in the bible there are examples of predestination, like Judas.
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  God & JW can't exist without "evil"

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

  almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

  when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Talesin - When I choose to shake my cognitive dissonance, I will.
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Desirous - Your choice was most likely the best choice for you at the time. Don't doubt it. As for your friend that may be the best choice in his mind and I would encourage him not to doubt that either.

  Talesin - You are entitled to your opinion and if that is a trait I need at times I will be more than happy to use it. I'm not a glass is half full or glass is half empty type of guy. I'm a "there's water in the glass" type of guy.
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Oneeyed, I see what you're saying. People observe all of us and may even base their life and beliefs off of an observation.

  We see the president and we have a perception about him. If we come to learn something that is different about that perception we would naturally be hurt.

  I completely see your point and concern, and it's a noble one. I don't live my life for others though. Yes that may be hard, but it's an honest truth I have with myself. We're only given so many cards and it's up to us to choose how to play them and make best use of the ones we're given, and who knows, if you have crap cards and bluff you may just take the pot ;-).

  Best advice I could give is to not take things at face value. It's often much more complicated then that.
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  thedepressedsoul

  We all die in the end, it's equally balanced.
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  I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the borg's tactics on most jw work.

  they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

  it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Talesin - My scree name is nothing about me, it's actually about Job haha.

  Everything in life is equal, everything has negative and positive aspects. It's up to each person to choose what is more valuable to them and what seems to have the better positives vs negatives for that person.

  Right now what I have chosen to do outweighs the negatives in my mind. I want to be very clear, IN MY MIND. It may be the exact opposite for another person.

  When the positives no longer outweigh the negatives in my mind I will have no problem making the adjustments and pulling a complete 360 to put myself back into a situation where the positives outweigh the negatives.

  Talsein, for you the better option in your mind may have been to leave. Don't ever doubt that and when you make a choice, stick with that choice and have confidence that you made the right decision because that is YOUR choice. It'll help you in the future when you are faced with your next decision. Trust you are making the right decision. If it ends up being the wrong one, use it as a learning tool instead of doubting yourself.
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  God & JW can't exist without "evil"

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

  almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

  when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

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  thedepressedsoul

  Hold me - But we can never know if he would or would not have been greedy in that situation because it was all stated before hand. You could say it was greed but was it? Did he not need that greed to fulfill prophecy, and was it not stated beforehand that he would be greedy?

  “They paid my wages, 30 pieces of silver.” Zech 11:12, 13. His greed was stated before he was even born. Would he have actually been a greedy person? We'll never know.

  That's the great thing about the bible, it can be taken 50 different ways and you can argue 50+ different beliefs from it and it's all BS in the end!