Posts by thedepressedsoul

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

Hold me - So dooming a humans life to an evil act that they have no say in is acceptable? Referring to Judas.

Often times the one enforcing the laws and punishment are the ones doing the evil behind the scenes.

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

thedepressedsoul

tiki - You're right, I don't mind though. I'm use to hearing that word in JW talks exactly like you just put it.

I also feel hypocrisy is needed/required when getting out of or dealing with this religion. If you're not willing to accept that, it's going to be a lot harder. Also, the only reason hypocrisy is viewed as a bad thing is because that's what we were raised to believe and how society views it. I tend to go outside the box.

Xanthippe - No I'm not. Just not ready to 100% leave yet. In time I will though. Like all moves I make, they're well calculated, planned and patiently executed. I view life like a chess board.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

I agree that there are different types of evil Hold Me. And humans are abot the most evil out of it all.

I do also believe though that evil is all around us and a form of it is needed in the bible.

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

thedepressedsoul

Oneeted, about 16+ years. I will say though, conventions and assemblies are getting very very hard. Holy crap are they long! I also never said I wasn't an apostate. But most apostates leave because they can't take it. I fall more in line with the "double life" category.

Service is also getting harder. More than 2 hours and I want to jump off a bridge.

Have you guys ever heard anyone call meetings or assemblies "fun"? I have never witnessed one ounce of fun at them.

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

thedepressedsoul

Sir not to mention entertainment. I've heard a quite a few JW tell me stuff they've watched and I've been shocked.

I think porn is the #1 though.

I think most though do feel very guilty, how could they not? It's stuffed into their head at every meeting. That's the difference though.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

Take a virus for example. To us and our cells any virus that enters our body is usually viewed as bad or evil. Our body tries to destroy it. To the virus though, our cells and us are the bad ones or the ones needing to be destroyed.

Is evil, good vs bad more "relative" then we're brought up to believe.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

Even in animal life their is a sense of evil.

Is the spider evil for catching it's pray in a hidden web, wrapping it up, sticking it's fangs into it's pray and then eating it's insides? Or is the spider just surviving? The other side of the coin.

A snake can eat a baby chick, a tiger can take down a baby elephant. It's a necessary evil.

Stars explode, die or consume other stars, again it's necessary.

I'm not sure if evil vs good is as cut and dry as JW make it seem. I do know though that the god of the bible and if he created life definitely shows an evil side as JW would put it.

However, we're raised up being told what is good and what is wrong. In other cultures the exact opposite may be true.

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

thedepressedsoul

The borg's tactics on most JW work. They put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the Kingdom Hall. It allows them to control every aspect of their life. Through guilt and fear they are able to control what they do, what they watch, who they talk to and a majority of their life affairs.

I'm the type of JW, the one they probably actually fear more than apostates. I'm the type that can site through their talks, read their magazines and not feel one ounce of guilt or fear. It could be a whole Watchtower study on entertainment, what we should and shouldn't watch. I could comment on that Watchtower, give a talk on it and even talk to the "friends" after the meeting about it. Then, I could go home and watch anything I wanted without an ounce of guilt. It's a cool feeling of freedom.

Even in the congregation this allows me to discreetly put bits of information into publishers ears that can help them "awake".

I know I'm not the only type like this. We can act like we're all on board and yet live the life that we want to. They refer to us as the "double life". Again that saying puts fear and guilt on those that may be doing it. For those like me though, it doesn't do a thing.

It puts us in a better position then those of being an "apostate" as we can still plant seeds of doubt in peoples mind.

I'm not sure why but for some reason it makes me feel better than if I just straight up left. There is something about the feeling of hearing their crap and rules beyond the bible and then being able to go home and do as I please.

Maybe I'm crazy but it honestly makes me feel good "living a double life". I also think it may be my brains way of wanting to be free.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

Hold Me - That sounded like a JC question haha

Honestly I don't know if I believe in God to begin with. I just noticed through bible reading that a certain form of evil is always needed.

When I use the word evil I am referring to JW view of evil.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

thedepressedsoul

I was thinking the other day that so far JW's and God have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of. Almost every bible prophecy and JW teaching would not exist without "evil".

Let's take the prophecy of Jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil. Judas had his fate sealed before he was even born. Without evil Judas and the pharisees none of that bible prophecy would have been fulfilled. They were counting and relying on evil and bad things to take place in order for it to be fulfilled.

Even with the wars of the old testament, it required a bad side to fight against.

I could never wrap my head around how Judas was destined to fail (If you take the bible seriously). When you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

Even look at JW today, they need that evil to fulfill their prophecy. There has to be wicked or nothing that they teach or believe in would have any relevance. Even after the big A there is still a evil being coming after a thousand years.

They focus and talk about evil more than the "world" does. I'm not sure if they worship the devil but they sure give him a lot of credit and focus in their talks.

I'm not sure where I am going with all of this but it was just an interesting thought I had the other day.