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  Frozen and Sparlock the warrior wizard

  by NewYork44M in

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  given that magic is from satan, this is what we learned from the horrible story about the little boy and sparlock the warrior wizard.

  i am curious to know if witness kids are allowed to see the movie frozen.

  i am not a big disney fan, but this movie was wonderful.

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  Based on my understanding:

  It depends on the degree of magic involved. For Harry Potter, the general view is that magic not only forms the whole theme of the movie, but the magic involved is "dark magic," thus making it unsuitable

  On the other hand, Disney movies are children-friendly & cater to almost everyone. There is more emphasis on family values rather than magic. Of course, magic is featured from time to time, but it's presented in such a light-hearted way that it becomes sort of acceptable as "friendly magic"

  I always believed in being balanced & rational. Hey, if you want to take things to the extreme, even Mary Poppins is a magic film & thus Christians should not watch it!

  Anyway, never met anyone with such a restrictive conscience that they avoid Disney movies!
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  How I Ended Up On JWN...

  by Divergent in

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  this is the story of how i ended up here on this site.... .

  i was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity.

  it was ridiculous - no matter what i did, there was always more to do.

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  This is the story of how I ended up here on this site...

  I was stuck in a situation where reaching out took forever, an eternity. It was ridiculous - no matter what I did, there was always more to do. I felt like a donkey chasing a carrot dangling off a stick in front of me - no matter how hard I tried & exerted, I would never be able to reach it. The elders were picky, fault-finding, over-analyzing my life, finding reasons as to why they should not give me further privileges, instead of looking at my positive qualities & finding reasons as to why they should (there were many). I did qualify, I was very sure of it. Unfortunately, I was a victim of congregation bureaucracy, having my spiritual progress hampered by elders who seemed to be intent on giving me a hard time

  Reaching out & not getting there had a reverse effect on me. I was frustrated, tired, & drained. Instead of trying harder & doing more, I slacked off. I am an individual who needs constant motivation, and not attaining what I was reaching out for was a definite motivation killer

  Things could have turned out differently, though. If I had been helped to make further advancement by the elders, I would be an elder myself by now & I wouldn't be here. If I had married a lovely, zealous pioneer sister, we could be pioneering happily together & I wouldn't be here. I could have easily ended up NOT being here if things had worked out better

  It's ironic how my joy was killed by congregation bureaucracy, & as a result, I found my way here...
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  My first post: Pet Peeves from my JW past

  by BarHarborBarbara in

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  first post here: longtime lurker but hesitant to take the leap.

  my story is pretty much like everyone elses with little variance, but i thought id add a few details that especially tormented me when i was in.

  im sure these are familiar, im afraid this is a bit of a rant.. --paradise: the constant chatter about a perfect world when most in the hall were not even slightly interested in taking care of the earth now.

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  Anyway, my pet peeve - no matter what you do, there's always more to do. Publisher? Why not auxilary pioneer? Auxilary pioneering on 30-hour requirement? Why not try 50 hours? Auxilary pioneering on 50 hours? Why not regular auxilary pioneer? Regular auxilary pioneering? Why not regular pioneer? Regular pioneering? Why not work towards becoming a special pioneer? And the list goes on and on...
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  My first post: Pet Peeves from my JW past

  by BarHarborBarbara in

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  first post here: longtime lurker but hesitant to take the leap.

  my story is pretty much like everyone elses with little variance, but i thought id add a few details that especially tormented me when i was in.

  im sure these are familiar, im afraid this is a bit of a rant.. --paradise: the constant chatter about a perfect world when most in the hall were not even slightly interested in taking care of the earth now.

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  My observations & personal opinions:
  
  Taking care of the earth - Not an issue where I'm at
  
  Higher education - I'm from Asia, where higher education is viewed as very important & highly valued. Many here ignore the counsel & proceed with it anyway. Almost all young ones in my cong have some form of higher education
  
  Debates - Seldom, less self-righteous ones here
  
  Elders turning a blind eye - Haven't experienced that
  
  Geography - We ain't so dumb
  
  Bias against single people - There are many single ones here, so less bias
  
  Desire to pioneer - Didn't have it either. Also have quite an independant spirit =)
  
  Service - Our field service here is mostly door to door, so we do not have car groups much except when going on RV's. Based on your description, it can definitely be said that service is more organized here
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  The World Mission Society Church of God, a cult from Korea

  by sherrie11 in

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  i just had two disciples of this religion knock on my door.. "the church of god is a destructive cult portraying itself as a mainstream religion.

  by exploiting christian terminology and the bible, they are manipulating their followers to further the goals of the movement, namely money and power.

  a former seventh-day adventist, and self proclaimed messiah, ahnsahnghong founded the organization in korea in 1964. .

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  This sparked my interest. Did a quick search, and this is some of the the info that I found. Hmmm.. interesting ^^

  WorldMission Society Church of God, also known as the Church of God, is a church that began in South Korea and has spread to over 150 different nations worldwide. The church expected the world to end in 2012. The church has since said that they did not expect the world to end in 2012.

  The Church believes that Jesus was to come a second time in the flesh. They believe that Ahn Sahng-hong is the Second Coming Jesus who came with a new name (Revelation 3:11–12; Revelation 2:17) and state that he fulfilled biblical prophecies that only Jesus could have fulfilled.

  As the Bible testifies in Revelation 22:17, "The Spirit and the bride," so the WMSCOG believes that according to the Bible the bride is God the Mother. According to Genesis 1:26–27, "US, OUR," there are two Gods, a male image of God and a female image of God. They call the female image of God, “God the Mother”. They teach that in the last days God the Mother has to appear on earth in the flesh. The WMSCOG believes that God the Mother is the source of salvation.

  The Church believes that all human beings were originally created as angels in Heaven. When in Heaven they sinned against God and were sent to the earth as a second chance to return to God. They believe that the only way for humans to return to heaven is by keeping the Passover with bread and wine (Jesus' flesh and blood) and following the teachings of the Bible, as taught by Ahn Sahng-hong, which include believing in God the Mother, who is the Bride to give them life in the last days.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Mission_Society_Church_of_God
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  Satan's tic tacs or GB kool aid?

  by sparrowdown in

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  anyone that has been a jw would be familiar with any or all the following scenarios.. 1. you get offered a full time position or promotion after submitting a pioneer application.. 2. a really great bible student you have gets offered a job which means they have to move or have no time for study anymore.. 3. a promising return visit begins a new relationship and the new bf/gf is'nt favourable to jws so the great rv backs off.. 4. a married sister falls pregnant right after her and her husband are invited to bethel or circuit work or gilead.. 5.a couple needs to start caring for an aging parent right after they decide to move to where the need is greater.. etc, etc, etc.

  most if not all jw's would tell you satan is to blame,.... or is he?.

  satanic pattern of sabotage or blind superstition?.

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  Psalm 127: 3 - Look! Sons are an inheritance from Jehovah; the fruit of the womb is a reward

  Whoever blames the devil for getting pregnant must be stupid...
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  Some JW on the street, my reaction...

  by sp74bb in

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  today i had some of my worst experiences.

  i saw a jw group walking on preaching.

  one of them knows me well, we share a lot of week-end on rbc.. my first reaction was rage and nerves.

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  Just act normal & keep your cool

  Cos showing anger only makes you look like a fool ^^
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  Creative ways of counting field service time

  by 4thgen in

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  there was a sister in my congregation that signed up to aux pioneer one month to put in 60 hours.

  we couldn't figure out why she was never at the arrangements, but yet she said she got in her time early in the month.

  we found out later that we wrote a letter that took her an hour.

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  Witnessing informally to your golf buddy while playing 18 holes of golf

  No, I haven't seen that before.. just wondering if anyone has ever done that ^^
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  New field service rules coming this summer

  by doinmypart in

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  new guidelines for field service coming this summer.

  new publication to be released giving new ways of counting time, conducting studies, group activities, etc..

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  Well, pioneer hour requirements have been relaxed over the years...

  E.g. -

  RP: From 90 hours to 70 hours

  AP: From 60 hours to 50 hours & now to 30 hours during certain times of the year

  Fact is, in our busy & fast-paced world many are finding it difficult to meet the hour requirements for pioneering, so the org has no choice but to relax the requirements in order to encourage more to do so
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  No refreshments.

  by quellycatface in

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  why is it that we never had coffee/tea after the meeting??

  yet, nearly every kh has a kitchen??.

  i do now i'm going to church.

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  There are no halls with kitchens where I'm at ;P