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  I am confused on the JW's 1000 year reign doctrine. Please explain it to me.

  by booker-t in

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  i have always thanked randy/dogpatch for creating free-minds because i always felt i was the only one that felt that jw's were teaching some nonsense.

  i admit i still think they got some of their teachings correct but one doctrine i think is full of bologne is the 1000 year reign doctrine.

  if jesus came into power in 1914 and now it is 2014 does that mean jws believe it will only be a 900 year reign?

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  Sorry, not able to explain it as I am confused myself!
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  You'll Never, Never Read This In The Awake!

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.businessinsider.com/the-world-is-becoming-a-better-place-2014-10.

  yup, sorry brothers.

  the world is getting better, not worse.

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  Talesin, wow... that was way before my time. During my time, the signs of the times in Matt 24 were constantly emphasized & there would be a period of "critical times hard to deal with" (2 Tim 3: 1), then somehow the nations would start to move toward a time of peace (1 Thess 5: 3), then the end would come. That's why I said metatron's example would only reinforce the idea that the end is at hand rather than the opposite as 1 Thess would be the JW answer to his example
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  You'll Never, Never Read This In The Awake!

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  http://www.businessinsider.com/the-world-is-becoming-a-better-place-2014-10.

  yup, sorry brothers.

  the world is getting better, not worse.

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  Metatron, sorry to say that your line of reasoning does not apply. JW's love quoting the scripture in 1 Thessalonians 5: 3 -- "Whenever it is that they are saying, "Peace and security!" then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them"

  In short:

  If there is no peace: "World conditions are getting from bad to worse! The end is near!!!"

  If there is peace: "1 Thessalonians 5: 3 is being fulfilled. The end is near!!!"

  Either way, they are right!
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  WT Study 26th Oct. '14

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i could find another thread so i thought i might add a few comments here - not a full critique though.

  "hear jehovah's voice wherever you are".

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/hear-jehovahs-voice/.

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  So a person wearing a cap backwards = bad association???
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  new assembly experience... what do you reckon to this one?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.

  she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.

  he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.

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  The Ebola-racoon one is nuts! Seriously???
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  new assembly experience... what do you reckon to this one?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.

  she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.

  he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.

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  To be fair to the Japanese, Japan's population is in decline, so it is likewise reflected in the JW statistics. Besides, many have moved to serve in other countries where the need is greater, and that is not reflected in the statistics
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  new assembly experience... what do you reckon to this one?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.

  she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.

  he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.

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  Not to forget the final part of the story -- the sister was asked if she had any regrets. Her reply? "No... because my father is here in the audience with us today!"
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  When elders became the disfellowshippers instead of the entire congregation.

  by tim hooper in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm trying to find the wt instructions for this procedure.

  extensive googling brings up watchtower 1944 may 15 p.151 as the reference.

  anyone able to look up the reference?

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  Good points. Just to clarify, I was just mentioning the reference used by elders to justify their disfellowshipping individuals without the presence of the congregation, but by no means support it. In the account of Ananias & Sapphira, it is also stated that there were other younger men present at the scene who helped to bury both Ananias & Sapphira
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  The Elders help

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a young jw i used to know (nice person), said within earshot to a non df'd ex jw he knew that his "..parents are up and down in the relationship and the elders(tm) are going to help.".

  the non df'd ex jw said to me that he considered that after the elders(tm) get involved his parents were bound to split up.

  the non df'd ex jw also commented: "what do elders know?

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  Argh... imagine how ridiculous it would be to give that advice to individuals who suffer from depression...
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  WT Study 26th Oct. '14

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i could find another thread so i thought i might add a few comments here - not a full critique though.

  "hear jehovah's voice wherever you are".

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/hear-jehovahs-voice/.

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  They should have drawn a hot chick instead. I would have ignored that girl too