Posts by Divergent

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Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand

by Listener in

some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.

the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.

they are real wankers ;)..

Divergent

This book was studied 3 times during congregation book studies. The first 2 times I was very young & don't remember shit, just some pictures which I thought were cool. I was a teenager when the book was studied for the 3rd time. It was then that the book was revised

The problem was that for some reason, our cong did not have an adequate supply of the new books for some time, so many had to use their old books. To make sure that those who had the old books were kept up to date with the changes, there was a pdf file that was made available which contained all the revised parts. Those who still did not have the new book had to make printouts to be able to follow along correctly during the study

I saw the many pages of changes & wondered to myself WHY there were so many understandings which needed to be updated??? However, I was still too brainwashed to figure things out, only was able to do so much later

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Jesus and cart witnessing

by wannaexit in

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http://imgur.com/r/exjw/pshnkwp.

.

Divergent

Seems legit... ;)

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Are we participants in this forum because of bouts of "loneliness"?

by Wonderment in

i wonder how many of us here hold on to this meeting place out of "loneliness.

could it be that we harbor feelings of "abandonment" and "loneliness" from being left cold and dry by the wt people and our families?

perhaps we do have a need to reach out to people with similar experiences.

Divergent

I'm here to count my hours

Just kidding. I'm here not because I'm lonely, but because I need a place to rant from time to time. Obviously, I can't do that with JW acquaintances (I won't call them friends now) nor can I do so with my non-JW friends (it's difficult for them to relate & understand as non-JW's, besides there are much better things to talk to them about than religion). So here I am!

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Creepy things jw's have said to you

by purrpurr in

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here's mine: i'm 14 years old, just baptised and a old boy married elder of about 60 odd comes up to me and says " ooooooooooh!

"purrpurr"!

your getting such a lovely figure on you!

Divergent

There is a brother in the cong I attend who has the awkward tendency to bring up sex related matters in his talk... even though that is usually irrelevant & out of the topic! He just finds a way to slot it in (try not to think dirty here)

Anyway, after some time, a nearby cong requested our cong NOT to send this brother over as a speaker to their cong anymore! The brother does not refer to sex as much as he used to in his talks now. I think he got the message

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One reason behind the slow steady decline of JWs

by AllTimeJeff in

hello first of all to those that remember me.

i'm doing well, 10 years since my missionary trip to cameroon.

i've met a couple of goals.

Divergent

Sparky1:
Nathan 'Papa' Knorr was a finely crafted persona that served the Organization very well. At Bethel he was all business and kept his nose to the grindstone. When he gave talks at assemblies and other gatherings he projected a fatherly and comforting demeanor. He appeared full of confidence and spoke with authority without overpowering his audience. 'Papa' Knorr was head of the Bethel family and 'head' of the 'spiritual family' of Jehovah's Witnesses. In the current arrangement who can 'fill his shoes' in the Jehovah's Witnesses 'family'?:

Nathan Knorr was a cold, aloof, hypocritical, heartless jerk, as evidenced by eyewitness accounts of those who knew him & all the strict man-made rules & decisions he imposed on the Bethel family & missionaries during his time. I suggest that you do more research next time before posting!

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Adele's new album....

by _Morpheus in

adele's new album came out today.

so far i love it, although one of the songs feels a bit overwrought to me.

i find her to be at her best, as i always have, when she is singing only accompanied by a piano.

Divergent

Haven't heard the new album yet...

Anyway, I thought the Skyfall song sucked! My favorite Adele song is Chasing Pavements. But that's just me...

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Divergent

Oh yeah, this song is for you. Love the lyrics! =)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE

This ain't a song for the broken-hearted
No silent prayer for faith-departed
I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd
You're gonna hear my voice
When I shout it out loud

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

This is for the ones who stood their ground
For Tommy and Gina, never backed down
Tomorrow's getting hard make no mistake
Luck ain't even lucky
Got to make your owns breaks

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

Better stand tall when they're calling you out
Don't bend, don't break, baby, don't back down

It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life

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The "overly attached witness parents" problem

by scaredtospeak in

it's so good to finally be nineteen years old.

graduated from high school, taken more seriously as an adult.

i even have a job.

Divergent

Make the move. I did the same too. No regrets!

Well, maybe just one regret. That I didn't do so earlier!

You deserve your OWN life, free from the interference of a stupid & pathetic man-made religion. Your parents might be nice, but with the influence of the cult, it's a toxic environment for you to be in & it would DEFINITELY affect you for worse. Make the move immediately when the opportunity arises, ASAP. Keep this in mind - The longer you stay, the harder it is to leave

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My first post

by thewalker in

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hi, i just joined the board and wanted to present myself.. i'm active, in fact very active in congregation activities serving "where the need is great" in a foreign language congregation somewhere in western europe.

as a young brother, i'm seen as an example as i'm doing all a good witness should do.. i had doubts years ago but i decided just to ignore them and move to another congregation to preach more.

that worked for some years but i'm now at the exact same point.

Divergent

I don't know where to go

Looks like you did. You came to the right place! I was in a similar situation as you before. Dissatisfaction led me to search for alternative views, & that's when I discovered jwfacts, jw-survey, & this forum

My problem was I was not happy as a JW. No matter what I did, it could never be enough. I visited the abovementioned sites, & came to the obvious conclusion that JW's do not have the truth. I'm sure that you would come to that conclusion eventually, if you have not already done so

After fading from "the truth", my life has never been happier! I no longer have feelings of guilt, no fear of dying at Armageddon, no fear of being bloodguilty for failing to "witness" to someone, etc. My life is also much less stressful - no more meetings, field service, & what not. I have more time for myself & have better friends - people who are genuine friends instead of conditional friends like JW's!

I don't fear the future. I don't believe in the depressing & unreasonable JW teaching that 99.99% of the world's population would die at Armageddon. I would say that if there is such a thing as Armageddon, a perfect & loving God would find a reason to save me, not to destroy me! I am truly happy & have peace of mind, that is the most important thing for me now. Hope that things would work out well for you too!

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REFUGEES: when the LAMB lies down with the LION

by Terry in

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refugees: the lamb lies down with the lions.___________________________________________.

on this continent, the native peoples welcomed the early european settlers and nursed them through the winter.

they shared and they traded.

Divergent

Talking about lambs, it reminded me...

In the Bible, it says Jehovah is our shepherd, so is Jesus, as well as the overseers in the congregation. BUT... ever stopped to think why do shepherds shepherd sheep in the first place? We all know what happens ultimately - the sheep get slaughtered! Shepherds always have an ulterior motive which is unknown to the oblivious sheep!

Sheep? No thanks. I'll rather be a mountain goat & live free & happy. What's up with the goat bashing anyway? Stupid book!