Posts by Divergent

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New June Awake with Misleading Statements about Evidence for god

by ttdtt in

the article (faith) is all about why you should have solid evidence based reasons for belief in god.

it's not good enough to believe in god just because you were raised to believe in god.. (from the article).

but god wants those who worship him to have genuine confidence in his existence and in his love.. then it goes on to tell us how we can get that genuine confidence that there is a god.

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This is how I feel about God:

If God exists, would he be so narrow-minded to kill me along with BILLIONS of good people just because we are not part of his religion? It is NOT that I do not want to believe in God. In fact, I welcome God to accept this challenge of mine: to make me a believer, to convince me without a doubt, if JW's or any other religion really have the truth. If God does not do that, then it's not my fault that I don't believe. After all, he has the power to convince me and he knows EXACTLY what he takes to convince me. If he does not convince me despite me requesting him to do so, then he has NO RIGHT to destroy me because it is not me who does not want to believe but rather it is he who has failed by choosing not to help me believe!

This is why I do not fear the future. If God doesn't exist, then I have nothing to lose by not following any religion. On the other hand, if God exists, then he does NOT have the right to destroy me if he does not convince me. After all, I have asked him to and he knows exactly what it takes!

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Car crash

by truthwillsetyoufree in

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boy who was seriously injured in a collision at gamlingay in cambridgeshire last thursday has died.. nine-year-old archie stevens, of western way, sandy, bedfordshire, died in hospital early on saturday afternoon.. the collision at about 10am in drove road, which involved two cars, also resulted in the death of his grandfather, 68-year-old martin harker, of green acres, sandy, who died at the scene.http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-02-22/nine-year-old-boy-dies-after-cambridgeshire-crash/.

the boy and his grandfather were jehovahs witnesses and they were on field service when a car drove into them.

the lad, who is the son of an elder who moved to a cambridge congregation to serve where the need is greater, was on life support before the sad decision was made to turn it off.

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The boy and his grandfather were Jehovahs Witnesses and they were on field service when a car drove into them.

Listen, obey, and be.....

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How did you feel when they eliminated the Con. Book Study?

by Freeandclear in

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years ago when i was "in" i loved the book study.

it was my favorite meeting by far.

mainly because it was a small group.

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Should be 2008 / 2009

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

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thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

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Thursday, March 3

They were uneducated and ordinary men.—Acts 4:13.

In recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by Jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity. Consider three examples. First, there is the simplified edition of The Watchtower. This edition has proved to be, in effect, a loving gift to those who struggle with language or find reading a challenge. Family heads are finding that their children are now more involved in the study of this journal, the main channel of our spiritual feeding program. Second, there is the revised edition of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Many Scriptures now use fewer words, yet their meaning is intact or even clearer. Third, there are the recent refinements in our understanding, such as the clarified understanding of “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45-47) What a delight it is to learn such truths and to teach them to new ones! w15 3/15 1:1, 4-6

First thought that came to my mind: WTF! Simplicity and clarity, yeah - everything has been dumbed down. BUT despite that, JW's still fail at being able to explain teachings that are the very basis of their faith! How many JW's are able to explain 1914? Or how about the "overlapping generation" "new light"? How many can explain the book of Revelation? These teachings should be simple and clear to them, right? Or not?

Recent refinements in understanding? If "refinements" are necessary, wouldn't it mean that the previous understandings were incorrect? And wouldn't that in turn make JW's false teachers who teach untruths? How sure are they that the "refined" understandings are now absolutely 100% correct? Does truth even have to be "refined" in the first place? If it has to be "refined" over and over again, how can it be called truth???

And what's this "uneducated and ordinary" part? How the hell does it even fit in with the rest of the comments??? Anyway, Jesus's disciples were uneducated and ordinary, BUT being labelled as "uneducated and ordinary" was a COMPLIMENT to them, because DESPITE being such they were able to astonish others with their teachings and miracles. Can the same be said about JW's today? Well, NO! Because when they are labelled unlettered and ordinary, that is what they REALLY are - unlettered and ordinary! There is NOTHING else special about them apart from that! Thanks to the anti-higher education stand, JW's are really uneducated. And no, finishing high school DOES NOT count as being educated nowadays! What contributions have JW's made towards the advancenment of science & technology? Do they perform humanitarian good deeds on a regular basis? How have they astounded others by means of their teaching? Oh, here's a good one - what miracles have they performed to make up for their being uneducated and ordinary? NONE! So Jesus's disciples had a reason to be proud for being uneducated and ordinary, but on the other hand, JW's are simply uneducated and ordinary and have nothing to show for it at all!!!

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Who Picks The Governing Body?

by millie210 in

hey everyone,.

just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.

if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.

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If one dies, the replacement would most likely be a Governing Body helper. Many "annointed" among these ones...

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The GOD of the OT a great guy..

by James Mixon in

leviticus 21:18-20 can not approach god.

a man blind or lame, who has a marred face.

or any limb too long (wth any limb too long), a broken foot or hand, hunchback or dwarf.

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God is love. God is merciful. God is just. God is fair. God is impartial. God does not discriminate. God looks upon the lowly ones with favor

Oh, wait...

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The Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body are Elitists (Here is why)

by Terry in

an "elite" group is one which has special privileges not granted to others.. and obscurantist elite, is a group which hides information by virtue of its own claim to be special and a sole source in dispensing necessary truths.. to wit:.

the gb's elitism shines through in articles such as this:.

“thus the bible is an organizational book and belongs to the christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals , regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the bible .

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Makemeanunbeliever:

JW's are a little harsh but pale in comparison to some of the religions in those regions.

Why choose a religion in the first place? If God exists, is he so narrow-minded to destroy BILLIONS of good people just because they are not part of his religion, if any?

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A novel preaching method

by Listener in

i came across this novel way of preaching on facebook.

probably one of the easier ways to get your hours in.. https://www.facebook.com/jwbrothers.org/videos/538251706351890/.

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How many people paid attention to that? LOL

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JW Brothers

by Festus in

there is a group called jw brothers in facebook.

somebody has posted an article that catholic church has covered up child abuse.. http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/national-content/catholic-bishops-not-obligated-to-report-clerical-sex-abuse-vatican-says/72976327.

this is what somebody had posted as reply:.

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What authority have the GB got left to them?

by Half banana in

( jw governing body members are invited to respond) .

however professional and glossy their pr makeover is, as seen on jw tv and the jw org logo... the bottom line is that 19th century religious adventist claims are no longer sexy..

to outsiders the jw org now has all the allure of a donkey wearing lipstick..

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Makemeanunbeliever:

Get over yourselves. The org is going nowhere except into the future. The momentum they have established will easily weather another 100 years of storms thrown their way.

Yes, as evidenced by the "extraordinary" growth they had last year