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  What the Org Teaches #5 "God's" Law on Shunning is Flexible For Elders!

  by The Searcher in

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  parents are forced by the org to regard their disfellowshipped children as if they were dead, non-existent - even if their child was in dire straits.

  's feel when they hear that it's ok for elders to try and encourage disfellowshipped ones back to the org, but they can't?.

  what the org says: km 8/02 p. 4 par.

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  No visit would be made on any who evidence a critical, dangerous attitude

  
  

  LOL! They can't handle dissent!
  
  
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  What's your passion???

  by Faith after Deception in

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  yesterday, i was feeling very blue.

  this is quite unusual for me, as i tend to be quite an upbeat, positive person, so spells of sadness or depression take me by surprise and are a real shock to the system.

  you know, i don’t believe in “putting on a face” or pretending to be ok; this “fake it ’til you make it” malarkey has never been something i’ve liked.

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  Socialising & making new friends. I've lost almost all of my JW "friends"!
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  Jehovah loves "even rounded numbers" or could this be a way to disprove the inspiration of the Bible?

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
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  while i am not able to recall them all at this time, i remember so many instances that when a number was quoted in the bible, especially large numbers, they were all "rounded up" to the nearest hundred or thousand.

  for instance the angel killed 185,000 syrians, not 184,879. sampson killed a thousand men with the jawbone of an ass, not 961. and on and on on the even rounded numbers.

  i would guess that it could be agues that these numbers were correct but is that realistic?

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  Adam lived for 130 years and then became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and he named him Seth.+ 4 After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Seth, Adam lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 5 So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.+So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.+6 Seth lived for 105 years and then became father to Eʹnosh.+ 7 After becoming father to Eʹnosh, Seth lived for 807 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Eʹnosh, Seth lived for 807 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 8 So all the days of Seth amounted to 912 years, and then he died.So all the days of Seth amounted to 912 years, and then he died.
  9 Eʹnosh lived for 90 years and then became father to Keʹnan. 10 After becoming father to Keʹnan, Eʹnosh lived for 815 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Keʹnan, Eʹnosh lived for 815 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 11 So all the days of Eʹnosh amounted to 905 years, and then he died.So all the days of Eʹnosh amounted to 905 years, and then he died.
  12 Keʹnan lived for 70 years and then became father to Ma·halʹa·lel.+ 13 After becoming father to Ma·halʹa·lel, Keʹnan lived for 840 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Ma·halʹa·lel, Keʹnan lived for 840 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 14 So all the days of Keʹnan amounted to 910 years, and then he died.So all the days of Keʹnan amounted to 910 years, and then he died.
  15 Ma·halʹa·lel lived for 65 years and then became father to Jaʹred.+ 16 After becoming father to Jaʹred, Ma·halʹa·lel lived for 830 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Jaʹred, Ma·halʹa·lel lived for 830 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 17 So all the days of Ma·halʹa·lel amounted to 895 years, and then he died.So all the days of Ma·halʹa·lel amounted to 895 years, and then he died.
  18 Jaʹred lived for 162 years and then became father to Eʹnoch.+ 19 After becoming father to Eʹnoch, Jaʹred lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Eʹnoch, Jaʹred lived for 800 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 20 So all the days of Jaʹred amounted to 962 years, and then he died.So all the days of Jaʹred amounted to 962 years, and then he died.
  21 Eʹnoch lived for 65 years and then became father to Me·thuʹse·lah.+ 22 After becoming father to Me·thuʹse·lah, Eʹnoch continued to walk with the true God* for 300 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Me·thuʹse·lah, Eʹnoch continued to walk with the true God* for 300 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 23 So all the days of Eʹnoch amounted to 365 years. So all the days of Eʹnoch amounted to 365 years. 24 Eʹnoch kept walking with the true God.+ Then he was no more, for God took him.+Eʹnoch kept walking with the true God.+ Then he was no more, for God took him.+25 Me·thuʹse·lah lived for 187 years and then became father to Laʹmech.+ 26 After becoming father to Laʹmech, Me·thuʹse·lah lived for 782 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Laʹmech, Me·thuʹse·lah lived for 782 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 27 So all the days of Me·thuʹse·lah amounted to 969 years, and then he died.So all the days of Me·thuʹse·lah amounted to 969 years, and then he died.
  28 Laʹmech lived for 182 years and then became father to a son. 29 He named him Noah,*+ saying: “This one will bring us comfort* from our labor and from the painful toil of our hands because of the ground that Jehovah has cursed.”+ He named him Noah,*+ saying: “This one will bring us comfort* from our labor and from the painful toil of our hands because of the ground that Jehovah has cursed.”+ 30 After becoming father to Noah, Laʹmech lived for 595 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. After becoming father to Noah, Laʹmech lived for 595 years. And he became father to sons and daughters. 31 So all the days of Laʹmech amounted to 777 years, and then he died.So all the days of Laʹmech amounted to 777 years, and then he died.
  32 After Noah reached 500 years of age, he became father to Shem,+ Ham,+ and Jaʹpheth.+

  
  

  God seems to like 'zeros' and 'fives'!
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  Inactive ones talk... some lies I noticed

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the brother giving the saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".. he said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.. and also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year .

  bs!

  totally bs!.

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  The brother giving the talk at the RC I attended didn't mention those things, so I don't think that was from the outline...
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  Listing Bros cv's in their intro

  by purrpurr in

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  at the assembly i noticed something new and disturbing.

  when a brother is introduced before a talk the audience is now given their life history/ major accomplishments .. "brother arsehole who served at bethal for five years, pioneered in the foreign language territory for ten years, is an elder in x congregation and serves in the construction projects blah blah blah".

  this puffing up never used to happen?

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  I remember hearing that at the 2015 RC, so it's not a new practice that was just introduced this year
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  2016-07-15 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN RUSSIA New law on missionary activity

  by wifibandit in

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  2016-07-15 to all bodies of elders in russia re: new law on missionary activity.

  translation:.

  to all bodies of elders in russia new law on missionary activity.

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  Sophia 3:9???
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  "What is in it for me."

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so if there was no promise of a "reward" for faithfulness...no paradise...no eternal life etc, how many witnesses would stick with the "faith"?.

  sure, the reward might be "making god happy", but he supposedly holds out the paradise promise with eternal life as an incentive right?.

  before anyone says, that's what satans challenge regarding job was about, just think.

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  Perry:

  God has a very easy yoke and a very light load.

  
  

  Could you be more specific?
  
  
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  My son is coming home to me soon. Yey!!!

  by KateWild in

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  my son sent me a wonderful song a month ago on this thread.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5704271907520512/my-wonderful-son.

  it's amazing how a bad experience can trigger action.

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  Another young adult freed from the clutches of this evil cult! Well done and may both of you continue to grow ever closer in the years ahead!
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  2016 convention. Was there a leaflet / public invitation campaign this year?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wondering if there was the usual hyped up leaflet distribution campaign this year or not?.

  as the convention seems more focussed on an "internal" message to keep witnesses loyal, did they want the public there?.

  and what would first time attenders really think if they heard the convention content?

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  Over here, they're inviting people to a convention which is hundreds of miles away! Pure stupidity & a total waste of time!!!
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  "Well now at least they get a ressurection!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  yes, that is what a witness said after the police shootings and terrible aftermath of violence occurred this week in the usa..... they said that it now gives them a chance to live forever...as if they would not have had that opportunity if they had not been tragically killed..... of course according to witness teachings, the contradictory thing is that if the big a had come a day before, then those same people would have been killed by jehovah because they were not his worshipers.....

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  This is one of the teachings which DID NOT make sense to me. God supposedly DOES NOT desire any to be destroyed, yet goes AGAINST his own desire and punishes GOOD people with everlasting destruction simply because they are not convinced that JW's have the truth? And other people who fall in the same category actually get resurrected just because they happened to die ONE day BEFORE Armageddon? Such an unjust and unpleasant God does not deserve my worship!