Half banana:
And we used to put up with drivel on a daily basis!
Tell me about it! I was a born-in with an elder dad and a pioneer mum
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Today's Text: A Whole Lot Of Bull****!!!
by Divergent infriday, september 30. one thing i have asked from jehovah—it is what i will look for—that i may dwell in the house of jehovah all the days of my life.—ps.
27:4.. as part of jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about god’s promised new world!
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Today's Text: A Whole Lot Of Bull****!!!
by Divergent infriday, september 30. one thing i have asked from jehovah—it is what i will look for—that i may dwell in the house of jehovah all the days of my life.—ps.
27:4.. as part of jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about god’s promised new world!
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prologos:
of David. Ps. 27. -- 4: --was David not encroaching ? was not the house of God, The Tent in his days, reserved for the priests? In the wt world reserved for the "anointed" ?
Well, my understanding is that he was dwelling in the sense that he was there very often...
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Today's Text: A Whole Lot Of Bull****!!!
by Divergent infriday, september 30. one thing i have asked from jehovah—it is what i will look for—that i may dwell in the house of jehovah all the days of my life.—ps.
27:4.. as part of jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about god’s promised new world!
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Friday, September 30
One thing I have asked from Jehovah—it is what I will look for—that I may dwell in the house of Jehovah all the days of my life.—Ps. 27:4.
As part of Jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about God’s promised new world! (2 Pet. 3:13) “The meek will possess the earth,” says Psalm 37:11, “and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.” People “will build houses and live in them” and will enjoy “the work of their hands.” (Isa. 65:21, 22) There will be no more oppression, poverty, and hunger. (Ps. 72:13-16) Babylon the Great will no longer deceive anyone, for she will not exist. (Rev. 18:8, 21) The dead will be resurrected and given the opportunity to live forever. (Isa. 25:8; Acts 24:15) What thrilling prospects exist for millions who have made a dedication to Jehovah! For such promises to become realities for us as individuals, we must continue to make spiritual progress, moving ahead with God’s organization, always keeping pace with it. w14 5/15 4:16, 17
10 important questions to "meditate upon" :
1. One thing I have asked from Jehovah—it is what I will look for—that I may dwell in the house of Jehovah all the days of my life.
Hey psalmist... wouldn't Jehovah destroy you if you choose NOT do dwell in his house? So you don't have to ask Jehovah to dwell in his house in the first place, you really have NO choice but to do so!
2. As part of Jehovah’s organization, what joy we now have in telling others about God’s promised new world!
Well, we are forced to, are we not? Preaching is NOT voluntary, it is forced upon JW's with the belief that engaging in the preaching work is a compulsory requirement which is necessary for their salvation. And even if we are NOT joyful in doing so, we are forced to "find joy" and deceive ourselves with the thought that such work is joy when it is really not!
3. “The meek will possess the earth,” says Psalm 37:11, “and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
If I am meek, God would know it, wouldn't he? I do not have to go around boasting that I am of the meek ones described in this scripture. Also, when I was a JW, I had NO peace of mind due to the endless demands of the organization and the fear of being destroyed at Armageddon because I wasn't "doing enough“ (but I do now!)
4. People “will build houses and live in them” and will enjoy “the work of their hands.”
You can already do that now, unless you are a dead poor JW
5. There will be no more oppression, poverty, and hunger
Again, I am NOT opressed, in poverty, or hungry. Maybe I would be if I was still a JW!
6. Babylon the Great will no longer deceive anyone, for she will not exist.
This so-called "Babylon the Great" who deceives people... doesn't it sound like the Watchtower Society who has decived and continues to deceive millions?
7. The dead will be resurrected and given the opportunity to live forever.
... while more than 7 BILLION people are murdered at Armageddon with no mercy shown to them by a God of LOVE, even though the only "wrong" that they have done is not believing in an unconvincing message. Makes sense!
8. What thrilling prospects exist for millions who have made a dedication to Jehovah!
... except those who are "spiritually weak", not doing enough in "the truth", skipping meetings / service, not pioneering / putting in enough hours, going out in service but not doing it well enough and incurring bloodguilt as a result, putting off baptism, pursuing higher education, indulging in other "worldly pursuits", engaging in "secret sins", not reaching out, not an MS by 23, wearing tight pants and colored socks, having facial hair apart from a moustache, etc., for these ones would be screwed at Armageddon. Thrilling prospects indeed!
(Seriously wondering how many would survive Armageddon if we follow the rigid standards set by the WT. Probably just a few thousand LOL)
9. For such promises to become realities for us as individuals, we must continue to make spiritual progress
How do you define "spiritual progress?“ Blindly agreeing with and following everything the org says? Standing dumbly besides a cart / trolley? Being judged by man-made rules and criteria according on how obedient you are to the org INSTEAD of showing true love and performing fine works on behalf of others in need without expecting anything in return? Congratulations... you are now a "spiritual" person!
10. moving ahead with God’s organization, always keeping pace with it.
I've moved ahead of "God's organization" and Jehovah’s stupid chariot which goes around in endless circles! You can call that real progress =)
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Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"
by Divergent inso yeah, i was thinking about this.
marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".
well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.
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konceptual99:
It's simple. How could a person disfellowshipped for marrying outside of the Lord get reinstated? Only by getting a divorce. Which God hates and if not for adultery would be non scriptural.Catch 22.
Yes! To be reinstated would mean that the individual has to be repentant of their "wrongdoing" and in order to show repentance, they would need to STOP that "wrongdoing" which in such a case would only have divorce as an option which is actually NOT an option... this is funny!
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Campaign to invite people to meetings
by StarTrekAngel injust found out last night that our congo is starting a campaign to invite interested people to meetings.
the instructions for the campaign clear out that "interested" people are not just those whom we visit often or have bible studies with.
it includes and random stranger we may talk to and who may show a hint of interest on the religion.
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blondie:
We were encouraged to give them to everyone with the delusion that many people would come to the meetings...in the 45 years I went maybe one person a month showed up because a random slip given out.
THAT many??? For my cong, I doubt we even had one per year!
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Who REALLY appoints elders and MS??
by HereIgo ini was 19 and being considered for ms. i went out of town to see my jw girlfriend during co visit and he was so butthurt he decided i wasn't ready!
i thought jehovah decided?
go figure.
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It's a blessing in disguise. DON'T get appointed!!!
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Who REALLY appoints elders and MS??
by HereIgo ini was 19 and being considered for ms. i went out of town to see my jw girlfriend during co visit and he was so butthurt he decided i wasn't ready!.
i thought jehovah decided?.
go figure.
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It's a blessing in disguise. DON'T get appointed!!!
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WT 1/2017: "Why is the Bible sometimes misunderstood?"
by Schnufti inthe bible is designed to be understood by those who are humble and willing to learn.
jesus said to his father: “i publicly praise you, father, lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children.” (luke 10:21) the bible is written in such a way that only those with the right attitude would understand its message.
people with a proud attitude—a common trait of “wise and intellectual ones”—tend to misunderstand the bible.
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If it is easier to misunderstand the bible RATHER than understand it, then something is terribly wrong with it!
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Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"
by Divergent inso yeah, i was thinking about this.
marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".
well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.
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wisdomfrombelow:
You can get disfellowshipped for marrying an unbeliever. And it is automatic if the unbeliever is a disfellowshipped witness.
This is unusual and has never happened in my country before to my knowledge. There were quite a number of cases of JW's here marrying outsiders and almost none that I know of got disfellowshipped. The only exceptions were a sister who married an outsider and had a wedding involving other religious rituals and another sister who slept with her "worldly" boyfriend and got pregnant before marrying him
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"You Can Do Just Enough Ministry To Dislike It"
by pale.emperor inwhen you were "in" did you ever actually enjoy the ministry?
and i made no secret about it.
instead i would joke about me feather knocking, and made sure i had my bible in hand so as they come to the door they know what im about so they can shut me down before i even start.. i always wondered how or why there were people who enjoyed it.
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Wayward:
Hated every aspect of it. I was very shy as a kid and it was sheer torture going to strangers' doors. And then wanting to die of humiliation when a classmate or teacher would answer.
Similar feelings here! I was not a shy kid by nature, but being a JW made me withdraw out of embarrassment