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  "Lets imitate faithful Lot of old...."

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i know we have all discussed at length the account / story of lot.... another thought occurred to me today...lets analyse his real personality,.

  in the very beginning of the account, lot is shown to be a selfish man...one that chose the better land and area..... then he was opportunistic and materialistic and kept living in a nice city, even though he was supposedly shocked by the immorality and lawlessness..... then we see him to be cowardly when he decided to send out his daughters to be pack raped.. later we learn he was heartless as he allowed his wife to turn around and look, and didnt protect her from doing so.. then we know he was lacking in self control and allowed himself to get drunk...twice.. then we know he was dismissive and unrestrained and a general sicko when he had sex with his daughters...twice in a row!.

  oh, but no...lets all praise him for being a righteous man.????!!!.

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  Well, yeah... but still, at least he wasn't as bad as other "faithful" Bible characters

  I guess the award for the most disgusting "righteous" Bible character would go to Samson. Unless you guys can think of a bigger asshole...
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  Constructive hobbies

  by zeb in

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  2. experiences

  hm have a hobby?

  im not asking what.. hm have taken up a constructive hobby since leaving?.

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  Dating out of "the truth"
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  It's all about appearances

  by tamagotchi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so far i've managed to keep service time to a minimum and i don't put my hand up to comment at the meetings and already certain ones are distancing themselves or not talking to me at all, i have to laugh!.

  i wonder if they think i've commited a serious sin well sorry to burst their bubble i haven't, well not yet anyway lol.. i find it funny everything is measured on what they see, but yet i have too but my faith in 8 guys who i don't know or have never met, too stand a chance of everlasting life.. there was a part in the watchtower this afternoon saying we should be thankful we are 1 in 1000 of people in the world who have accurate knowledge, give me a break..

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  Why is only 1 person out of every thousand a witness? The usual answer given: Because Jehovah focuses on quality, NOT quantity

  Oh wait... how many in the cong can you say are people of VERY GOOD QUALITY??? Many are miserable, down-hearted, tired-out & weary, drained & exhausted, not at all the "happiest people on earth" that they claim to be! Depression / mental disorders are widespread. Congs are full of people who are self-righteous, judgemental, quick to condemn others but oblivious to their own wrongdoings. Sex-abuse cases are rampant but are covered-up, with little or no action taken against the perpetrators. Are these people of QUALITY? Certainly not!!!
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  It's all about appearances

  by tamagotchi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so far i've managed to keep service time to a minimum and i don't put my hand up to comment at the meetings and already certain ones are distancing themselves or not talking to me at all, i have to laugh!.

  i wonder if they think i've commited a serious sin well sorry to burst their bubble i haven't, well not yet anyway lol.. i find it funny everything is measured on what they see, but yet i have too but my faith in 8 guys who i don't know or have never met, too stand a chance of everlasting life.. there was a part in the watchtower this afternoon saying we should be thankful we are 1 in 1000 of people in the world who have accurate knowledge, give me a break..

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  It's funny how so many JW's seem to be oblivious to Matt 7:1 - "Stop judging that you may not be judged"

  The constant judging that I faced & the unhappiness + frustration which I felt as a result of it was a key reason which contributed to my fade
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  Circuit Overseer's Cars - Anybody got the answers?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atlantis provided a uk branch letter regarding a 3 levy per publisher to pay for the britain branch c.o.s 85 new cars.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/126700001/2-new-boes-watchtower-begging-money-volunteers.

  with approximately 120,000 publishers in the uk, that will rake in 360,000. .

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  Whatever happened to "keeping your eye simple"???
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  Even if everything about the "truth" was all true...........

  by pontoon in

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  2. beliefs

  i will say that one of the most distasteful teachings for me is the idea of praising, thanking, worshiping, god every day for all eternity.

  what kind of ego needs that?

  like if i ever saved a person's life i would say buy me a bottle of scotch and we'll call it even.

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  Actually, I was ok with praising, thanking, worshipping, loving God & all of that...

  What I was NOT ok with is the teaching that BILLIONS of people would be destroyed simply because they are not convinced that we have "the truth"

  That was one of the main reasons that led me to wake up
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  Why I resent being baptized into jw.cult

  by freemindfade in

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  i hate being lynched by my family for being skeptical or rational.

  witness treat you as though all morality and good end with belief in the ot god yhwh.

  so even if you met or exceeded their moral level and you even doubted his existence.

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  FMF + Phizzy --- exactly my thoughts! Even when I was an active witness, I always felt that the LESS people we preach to, the MORE would be saved. After all, not having the opportunity to know God IS a valid reason for salvation. I never understood the logic of learning a new language & preaching to the deaf, etc. If we preach to such ones & they do not accept the "truth", they would be destroyed at Armageddon RATHER than not being destroyed at all had they NOT heard the "good news"!!!
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  Adam and Eve account does not meet the criterion of a story!

  by economy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  adam and eve story does not follow the common logic..

  1) children would never believe a lie (especially from a stranger) against their father who has already proved a supreme benefactor to them!.

  2) if even if they believed, normal course of action would have been to wait!

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  God + making man in HIS image + naked human couple + free will + tree & forbidden fruit + talking serpent = total disaster
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  JW literature cart spot pinched by another church group!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sooooo funny!.

  the spot that is used by the local cong in our town for the literature cart has been taken over by another church group!.

  the witnesses arrived to set up, and another group was in the exact same spot, with a table, and brochures and a sign..... it will be a great thing as it dilutes the effectiveness of the witness activity, by making it look confusing to the local town people!.....

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  It would be great if the spot was taken over by a cart group promoting awareness of JW sex abuse cases!
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  Why Armageddon isn't coming! Definite proof for all lurkers!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  Most common & overly-used JW excuse: "The end is around the corner, but we do not know WHICH corner"

  Gets on my nerves every time I hear it!