Posts by Divergent

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Just threw away...

by stephanie61092 in

so even though i don't drive much because public transit is so good where i live (and parking is a living nightmare), i always had a paper taped onto my glove box that said "no blood transfusions - jehovahs witness.

see legal documentation in wallet.

going through this "wake up" process as been a very crazy, emotional experience.

Divergent

Ditched mine when I faded. The contact info had already been outdated for quite some time anyway!

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Strange sounds from the mens toilet ,late 80s early 90s

by pleaseresearch in

so as a young boy bored and wanting to stretch my legs i would sometimes take a trip into the toilet just to get away from the main meeting room.

did my little mind know what certain sounds were coming from behind the cubical?

no.. but now in my 30s i'm fully aware what that sound was.

Divergent

Honestly speaking, I've wanked off at the KH before (without the sounds, though!)

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

Divergent

i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.

What about her needs? Shouldn't they be satisfied as well? Wouldn't a proper gentleman put the needs of a lady ahead of his own? What if your views are terribly wrong? Are you advocating blind respect?

i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.

You got that right! Correction though - not some, but everyone! (oops, almost, with you as the exception)

yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

There's no such thing as gender superiority now. It all boils down to individual capabilities

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

LOL... all the best with that!

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

I'm not contacting you, just replying to your post =)

please also be in london as i have run out of airmiles.

Hmm... stingy, aren't you?

thanks, english gentleman.. topic jw male london seeks jw female to breed

"Breed"... LOL WTF.....

By the way, please check up the definition of "gentleman" in the dictionary. It's far from what you are!

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genuine english guy seeking jw lady

by english_gentleman in

hi, i believe that a lady is put on earth to satisfy the needs of her partner and respect his views in all matters.. i realize some here may consider that old fashioned and not based on sexual equality.. yet a lady and man are not created equal because the lady gives birth and the man must sire many children.

if you are a lady under 30 and keen to meet me, willing to cook and breed, then please message me here.

please do not contact me if you disagree with my views, we can agree to differ.

Divergent

Misogynist alert!!!

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

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thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

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WingCommander:

Luke was a doctor. Paul was a tax collector

Err... I think you mean Matthew? Lol. Anyway, at least we can see tthat there was some intelligence there

Let's see how the GB fares in comparison:

Morris is an asshole

Lett is a joke

Jackson is a liar

Herd is a misogynist

Losch is just boring

Splane is the guy who comes out with weird doctrinal explanations which make no sense

Sanderson is merely a yes-man just following what the others dictate

Uneducated and ordinary men indeed!

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JWs Do Not Know How To Think

by xjwsrock in

i recall a conversation i had after an international convention.

it was recently in the united states.

the one where they played the jesus drama and all that.

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I DON'T AGREE that JW's can't think. The fact that there are so many waking up shows that they can! =)

The tricky part is getting them to think. The recent ARC, the Candace Conti case, and other sex abuse scandals got many thinking. I believe that almost every JW has the potential to wake up, but in order for them to do so, something has to trigger them to start thinking first

We were all triggered to think by different things. For me, it was mainly the blood issue, sex abuse scandals, and not being able to get over the fact that God will destroy billions of innocent people at Armageddon. Others are triggered by false prophecies, 587 / 607 B.C.E., 1914, 1975, overlapping generations, the Mexico / Malawi scandal, the UN scandal, injustice in the congregation, the disfellowshipping of a family member or close friend, being disfellowshipped and shunned themselves, being stumbled by Anthony Morris or other GB members, unfulfilled expectations such as Armageddon not coming, something a householder said, stumbling across something online, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Every individual is unique in their thinking!

The most important thing is NOT to give up on such ones. There have been many experiences of ex-JW's on this site who were highly indoctrinated, but eventually woke up because their spouses / friends did not give up on them. Hopefully one day, your wife might be one of these ones!

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New June Awake with Misleading Statements about Evidence for god

by ttdtt in

the article (faith) is all about why you should have solid evidence based reasons for belief in god.

it's not good enough to believe in god just because you were raised to believe in god.. (from the article).

but god wants those who worship him to have genuine confidence in his existence and in his love.. then it goes on to tell us how we can get that genuine confidence that there is a god.

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This is how I feel about God:

If God exists, would he be so narrow-minded to kill me along with BILLIONS of good people just because we are not part of his religion? It is NOT that I do not want to believe in God. In fact, I welcome God to accept this challenge of mine: to make me a believer, to convince me without a doubt, if JW's or any other religion really have the truth. If God does not do that, then it's not my fault that I don't believe. After all, he has the power to convince me and he knows EXACTLY what he takes to convince me. If he does not convince me despite me requesting him to do so, then he has NO RIGHT to destroy me because it is not me who does not want to believe but rather it is he who has failed by choosing not to help me believe!

This is why I do not fear the future. If God doesn't exist, then I have nothing to lose by not following any religion. On the other hand, if God exists, then he does NOT have the right to destroy me if he does not convince me. After all, I have asked him to and he knows exactly what it takes!

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Car crash

by truthwillsetyoufree in

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boy who was seriously injured in a collision at gamlingay in cambridgeshire last thursday has died.. nine-year-old archie stevens, of western way, sandy, bedfordshire, died in hospital early on saturday afternoon.. the collision at about 10am in drove road, which involved two cars, also resulted in the death of his grandfather, 68-year-old martin harker, of green acres, sandy, who died at the scene.http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2016-02-22/nine-year-old-boy-dies-after-cambridgeshire-crash/.

the boy and his grandfather were jehovahs witnesses and they were on field service when a car drove into them.

the lad, who is the son of an elder who moved to a cambridge congregation to serve where the need is greater, was on life support before the sad decision was made to turn it off.

Divergent

The boy and his grandfather were Jehovahs Witnesses and they were on field service when a car drove into them.

Listen, obey, and be.....

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How did you feel when they eliminated the Con. Book Study?

by Freeandclear in

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years ago when i was "in" i loved the book study.

it was my favorite meeting by far.

mainly because it was a small group.

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Should be 2008 / 2009

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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!

by Divergent in

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friends

thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.

consider three examples.

first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.

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Thursday, March 3

They were uneducated and ordinary men.—Acts 4:13.

In recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by Jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity. Consider three examples. First, there is the simplified edition of The Watchtower. This edition has proved to be, in effect, a loving gift to those who struggle with language or find reading a challenge. Family heads are finding that their children are now more involved in the study of this journal, the main channel of our spiritual feeding program. Second, there is the revised edition of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. Many Scriptures now use fewer words, yet their meaning is intact or even clearer. Third, there are the recent refinements in our understanding, such as the clarified understanding of “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45-47) What a delight it is to learn such truths and to teach them to new ones! w15 3/15 1:1, 4-6

First thought that came to my mind: WTF! Simplicity and clarity, yeah - everything has been dumbed down. BUT despite that, JW's still fail at being able to explain teachings that are the very basis of their faith! How many JW's are able to explain 1914? Or how about the "overlapping generation" "new light"? How many can explain the book of Revelation? These teachings should be simple and clear to them, right? Or not?

Recent refinements in understanding? If "refinements" are necessary, wouldn't it mean that the previous understandings were incorrect? And wouldn't that in turn make JW's false teachers who teach untruths? How sure are they that the "refined" understandings are now absolutely 100% correct? Does truth even have to be "refined" in the first place? If it has to be "refined" over and over again, how can it be called truth???

And what's this "uneducated and ordinary" part? How the hell does it even fit in with the rest of the comments??? Anyway, Jesus's disciples were uneducated and ordinary, BUT being labelled as "uneducated and ordinary" was a COMPLIMENT to them, because DESPITE being such they were able to astonish others with their teachings and miracles. Can the same be said about JW's today? Well, NO! Because when they are labelled unlettered and ordinary, that is what they REALLY are - unlettered and ordinary! There is NOTHING else special about them apart from that! Thanks to the anti-higher education stand, JW's are really uneducated. And no, finishing high school DOES NOT count as being educated nowadays! What contributions have JW's made towards the advancenment of science & technology? Do they perform humanitarian good deeds on a regular basis? How have they astounded others by means of their teaching? Oh, here's a good one - what miracles have they performed to make up for their being uneducated and ordinary? NONE! So Jesus's disciples had a reason to be proud for being uneducated and ordinary, but on the other hand, JW's are simply uneducated and ordinary and have nothing to show for it at all!!!