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  How to traumatize your kids while baking cookies

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://cultprevention.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-novel-way-to-traumatize-your-children.html.

  well dubs may corner the market on messing with children's heads, but there are other contenders.. .

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  "Fundamentalists are wacky....."

  So theyr'e mental but not fun,

  at least they 've got the last part of the name right, the first part is just false advertising.
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  Excusing the JW Child Abuse Scandals.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my question is prompted by a post of terry's on his own thread about a parable for jw's.

  in that post terry shows how the standard jw response to any report of sex abuse within the borg is to use the "no true scotsman" fallacy.. i.e "he was not a real jw".. my question is for some time in the future, when the true, horrendous, extent of abuse within the borg is public knowledge, and the cognitive dissonance grows for jw's about this being endemic in "god's organization" for so long, how will they excuse it, or explain it, then ?.

  how will they push away the obvious conclusion that jehovah must have approved of this going on, or he would have rectified it, not left it to the courts to pick up the broken pieces years later ?.

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  Sadly, I am beginning to think there are many who will simply not care- regardless of any evidence that comes to light.

  They will simply play the " where else shall I go " card.
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  What's Your Favorite Perfume or Cologne?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is xmas time and perfumes and colognes are on the list.

  what do you really love for a scent if you were being given a gift?.

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  Euphoria- eau de parfum.People have stopped me in the street to ask me what perfume I'm wearing (seriously it's that good). It's classed as an oriental I think.
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  local needs "are you spiritually grown up?"

  by sylvlef in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday local needs was this theme.

  are you spiritually grown up.. summary: if you are between 18-35 and not ms or elder, you lazy idiot are like a child.

  at this age, especially if you grew up in "da trooooth" you have no issue with jw.org doctrine right (how do you know...?

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  Same-old, same-old: you are not doing enough you lazy assholes, now drop and give me thirty.... hrs of field service.
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  Your favourite dog breed ...?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. family

  in an earlier thread, i mentioned that i wasn't a particularly doggy person but that my parents got a husky last year that i've come to regard as a kind of brother.. huskies superficially resemble wolves and for me it's been fun to compare and contrast husky and wolf behaviour.

  huskies howl but rarely bark, and seem to have a strong prey drive and a strong pack instinct - a nod to their wild cousins.

  this is why i love huskies, i think.. do you have a favourite dog breed and why?.

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  Cavallier King Charles for their gentle friendly nature.

  I just loved the little dog from the movie As Good As It Gets starring Jack Nicholson, not sure what breed it was.
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  Any elders out there? How to Local needs talks work?

  by Letts Party in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so a local needs talk was lovingly given at our hall last week that i'm positive targeted me specifically.

  it had to do with missing meetings for work.

  they even had a demo on what we should do if our boss asks us to stay overtime on a meeting night (basically say "no" and risk losing your great job which you have no desire whatsoever to lose)... so i'm aware that there's a sort of protocol the elders follow when someone in the hall needs to work on something.

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  To be honest, I left pretty much every local needs part scratching my head wondering what or who they were talking about.

  For the most part these talks were so general they really could have been talking about anyone. Add to that, most

  witnesses are feeling guilty about something, then any part/talk/article could apply to anyone to some degree.

  Just play it cool.
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  the Wt Study last Weekend

  by thedog1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wasn't at the study at the weekend, the reason was family health problems, but even if that had not been the case i wouldn't have been there.

  has anybody else who was there or read the article noticed the unbelievable begging bowl being produced for the pioneers and cos and bethelites, etc?

  maybe this has been commented on already but in effect witnesses are being asked to financially support, not only pioneers, but circuit overseers if they need medical help, and to fill in with dealing with aged parents if missionaries are abroad.

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  What ever happened to "each one will carry his own load"?
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  JW's and Ambient Abuse

  by Jehovanomics in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ambient abuse is the stealth, subtle, underground currents of maltreatment that sometimes go unnoticed even by the victims themselves, until it is too late.

  ambient abuse penetrates and permeates everything but is difficult to pinpoint and identify.

  it is ambiguous, atmospheric, diffuse.

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  God, yes.

  That atmosphere you have an inkling is not healthy, but you just can't put your finger on it.

  If you try to analyze it verbally you are told you are being negative, fault-finding etc.

  Very cultish.
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  Elder Appointments

  by MaybeSo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.

  which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.

  so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.

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  From what I can gather the main "qualification" is whether or not the alpha-elder likes you.

  From there it is just a matter of convincing the other elders that your'e elder material.

  Then, before you know it your'e having the "come in here dear boy, have a cigar, your'e gonna go far" speech.

  The rest is technicality, they make anyone appear 'qualified" on paper- if they like you enough, or

  you are connected.
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  How to disassociate? HELP

  by Mandrake in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm looking for a way to disassociate myself, now i'm thinking to make a "public declaration" before a civil law notary (i'm in chile), but i need some ideas about what to put in that declaration, i would like to look the "ks" book to cover all possible sides and make a solid declaration... any experiences?

  my plan is to make that legal declaration that would say "i'm no longer consider myself a jehovah's witness nor want to be linked to any of the wt organizations or legal entities, and want all my personal records to be erased"... any orientation will be helpful :).

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  sparrowdown

  Sometimes a clean break is best for closure.

  Someone with law background might help with the wording of such a document.