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  FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

  eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

  she died because of her religious principles.

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  Another blood sacrifice to WT.

  This organization is pure evil.
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  Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

  the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

  one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

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  Judge Rutherford "I'm a big fan of Satan's original lie, it was an excellent marketing strategy"

  David Splane " I'm a big fan of the "overlapping generations" business model myself"

  
  
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  what are your thoughts on this quote from the elders book?

  by aboveusonlysky in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.

  shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.

  that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.

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  The fact that the elders are trained to believe they have the right and authority to both decide and then judge what another is thinking and feeling says it all really.

  
  
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  Who has the authority to decern what the bible really teaches?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i ask because of all the books, mags and testimonies that the wts promotes.

  not only the wts, but many other christians attempt to speak about the bible with authority.

  how do we measure who is an authority if we don't know that much?.

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  My take on this question is this.

  The bible is a book, read it if you like and make of it what you will.

  But, never ever give over your right to think critically and for yourself on the thoughts, observations and accounts contained in it. And, never ever give authority to any person or group to make personal life decisions for you based on what they think the bible says. And never ever give money to any person or group who claims to have authority from God to think for you.

  And finally NEVER EVER believe any person or group who claims to speak for God.
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  LEAKED Talk - Depression Is A Part Of This Life

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another leak from my collection of talks that i was ordered not to share.

  an elder gave me a ton of talks from bethel and special assembleys to put on his ipod.

  of course i copied them to my computer and will share them for all of us.. depression is a part of this life by brother nathan fuel.. this talk also touches on the subject of family members being disfellowshipped, feel depressed?

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  Shunning, victim blaming, depression shaming.....WT could have written the instruction manual on GASLIGHTING!

  They absolute fricken masters at it.

  They could have called it "Gaslighting for Jehovah" but they called it the elders manual instead.
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  Wollongong, New South Wales, Australia!

  by darkspilver in

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  2. friends

  from the front page of jw.org.

  same view on google street view .

  https://goo.gl/maps/b9wnsnxzu2r.

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  Wing Commander - After armagedon the Princes (elders) will have first dibbs duh, but, they will assign a team of privileged sisters to clean up any bodies or worldly mess leftover in the house first.
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  If a JW Came To Your Door How Would You Handle It?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses have never come to my door but they have come to my girlfriends door.

  i have coached her as to what to say or ask but it appears that they always seem to come when she's not there.

  .....just curious would you get into it with a jehovah's witness at your door especially if it was someone you did not know?.

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  If it was someone I didn't know then yes I would play dumb (easy for me) act interested and pose some innocent widdle questions about the structure of the borg, qualifications of the leaders, what other community work they do - if any, what happens to donations, if their leader's speak for God, if Jesus died for everyone in the whole world..........

  Oh God, how I would enjoy tying them up for hours and their heads in knots.
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  BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.

  by James Mixon in

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  2. friends

  if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..

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  Maybe he was at a party at Bill Cosby's house lol.

  .....What....Too soon?
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  The Writing Committee Needs Higher Education!!!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower january 2017 - how was fire transported in ancient times?.

  "the biblical account found at genesis 22:6 states that, in order to prepare to offer a sacrifice at a distant location, abraham "took the wood for the burnt offering and put it on his son isaac.

  then he took in his hands the fire and the knife, and the two of them walked on together.

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  Maybe crazed psycho killers that think God is telling them to kill someone just have a scout's knack for restraining victims and starting fires and shit.
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  JW's Are All About Free Will Now

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from the january 2017 watchtower:.

  first paragraph reads: when faced with making a personal choice, one woman told a friend: “do not make me think; just tell me what to do.

  that is easier.” the woman preferred being told what to do instead of using a precious gift from her creator, the gift of free will.

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  You gotta hand it to them. Kings of f***ing spin!

  No wonder JW minds are twisted into a pretzel.