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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  You gotta remember Watchtower places itself as the "head" of each and every baptized witness and their families with its myriad of rules and regulations JWs are emotionally blackmailed into living by. It is during the carrying out of these many rules that much trust is given atomatically to other members of the group whether they actually are trustworthy or not. I do hold WT reponsible for insisting their rules be followed they cross the line when they control others, they control others through fear obligation and guilt - IOW indoctrination.

  WT is a high control group that needs to be exposed as such so people can see it for themselves and leave or not join in the first place and if lawsuits and bad press will help that happen then great.

  Of course laws changing is worthwhile goal and there are good people working tirelessly for that but victims of WT have the right to do whatever they need to so I will not be judging them for suing WT anytime soon.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  The law WT should be following is a moral one NOT mandated by state or country but by conscience.

  M.O.R.A.L. Why? Because they claim to follow the law of love!
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  What Was Your Favorite Kingdom Song?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  funny but for whatever reason, i can't stop singing walking in integrity from the old songbook!

  it's in my head and in my opinion it was one of the few songs i really liked..

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  My favourite KS was the one with lyrics that say....um let me see if I can remember them..oh yeah

  ....nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole and everthing is stunted and lost..

  ...like a bat out of hell I 'll be gone when the morning comes

  ....like a bat out of hell I'll be gone gone gone

  Oops sorry right sentiment but NOT a kingdom song.

  I didn't have a favourite propaganda song I hated them all equally, though, some of them were effective as ear-worms.
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  JW employing pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank

  by oppostate in

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  what do you think about using pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank?.

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  I think that the WT are gutless wonders encouraging and allowing chlldren to do their dirtywork for them and be used as a recruiting tool.

  Shame WT shame. Are their any other ways you can put children at risk is "witnessing" online next?
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Why aren't WT as the self proclaimed most moral loving caring people on earth changing their policies to make it 100% clear to any and all of it's members that child abuse is a matter for the police and NOT the elders to investigate and re traumatize victims with their inept inappropriate and irresponsiby cruel questions that they have no business asking of victims???

  What are WT doing to work with police and report even when not required to by law?

  Guardians of Doctrine my ass.

  Guardians of Pedophiles more like and certainly NOT Guardians of Children!
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  Shunning

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

  i know people who have done exactly this.

  you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

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  I do know you do not have to be disfellowshipped to be shunned.

  Why are you attempting to school us in the dark art of disfellowshiping anyway?
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  RC 2017

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).

  the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .

  as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.

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  Where We Jews (and Religionists) Have Not Been So Forthcoming

  by David_Jay in

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  2. beliefs

  because i feel some people have become confused in thinking that i am promoting religion or thinking that being jewish is some type of special gift that makes me better, i am writing to tell you that i don’t feel this way.

  think of this as your christmas gift (or chanukah or festivus or whatever).. despite the fact that i too practice a religion, i also think atheism is a purposeful and noble use of the mind.

  too often people with a religion have only bad things to say about atheism and atheists.

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  "We theists" " fellow religionists" "us" you use terms of inclusion then say "IM NOT WITH THEM." Very curious.

  If you feel the need to explain your own faith and position fair enough I spose if explaining yourself to virtual strangers is your thing, but why are you speaking for others? Some "religionists" are not sorry.

  I don't mean to offend you DJ I think you are rather sweet but, your insecurities and your arrogance puzzles me.
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  2 bilion income from selling HQ now

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

  were has the money gone?.

  it must be somewere.. g..

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  How much would we really know about how they live.?All we know is what they allow us to know. This organization is obscene in their love of money while telling their members to earn minimum wage and live "simply."
  

  And, not one dollar of it goes towards giving back to humanity.
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  WT Quote: Is It Wrong to Change Religions?

  by Sanchy in

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  2. friends

  is it wrong to change religions?w59 5/15 305-307 (bold mine):.

  chances are you did not choose the religion you profess but you inherited it from your parents.

  comparatively few persons actually make their own choice of a form of worship.

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  I always found it hugely hypocritical even while in that JWs actively go out and lure people to denounce, leave and generally hate on their own religion and become JWs with bait and switch promises of the true-est, bestest ,most happiest, smartest, lovingest religion EVER!

  Then turn around and print articles like these, un-fricken-believable!