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  Elders getting burnt up.

  by biblexaminer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the elders in this area are getting burned out.

  i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.

  they can't keep it straight.

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  Problem identified "...too many balls to juggle." Aaand....

  Too little balls to step down.
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  Still Contaminated After All These Years

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the contaminantion of years of being a jehovah witness.. it's interesting to see in myself and in many others here how no matter how much we want it or wish it, we will never be able to erase all of the mental contamination.

  in one way or another it will always be a part of us.. i've had many friends that have been out for many years say "well i can't do that it just wouldn't be right.

  " yes they are still judging themselves and others.

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  It's a struggle to break your mind free from WT shackles but worth the effort. It definitely a process though and not just a matter of not being at meetings anymore.

  I have found learning new things is a good way to keep your mind open and from reverting to WT mush, but it is a constant struggle.
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  Sisters running microphones?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so our sunday meeting was on the 25th (christmas) and my active jw wife and i were out of town enjoying some family time with relatives.. apparently there were many others in our congregation that missed as well.

  so few were there in fact that sisters ran the mics.

  (actually it was a sister running one of the two mics) a friend of my wife commented to her about how the brothers just aren't stepping up and it "makes her want to cry.

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  Vid and Rub ( lol,that sounds like a private porn session )

  The WT policy is always bro's before ho's unless there are no Bro's in which case ho's will just have to do ...oh and of course Bro's don't gossip - that's called an elders meeting.
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  A Comforting Thought About Watchtower

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this organization will never again be what it was by 2013-2014. .

  they peaked in the form they were, i believe they were already falling apart in ways, but from the outside and to the majority r&f, things likely still seemed on the up and up.

  browsing through the boards and just keeping my finger on the pulse of what's happening, this organization will never again be what it was.

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  Agree Freemindfade. Whatever happens with WT Jehovah's witnesses will never be the same again.

  Apart from obvious physical changes to meeting format, use of tablets and screens etc the whole vibe is different. When I run into JWs in the street or supermarket they look dead behind the eyes, with a flat affect.

  That's my take anyway.
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  The building on the RIP WT pin looks like a cartoon building.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  You gotta remember Watchtower places itself as the "head" of each and every baptized witness and their families with its myriad of rules and regulations JWs are emotionally blackmailed into living by. It is during the carrying out of these many rules that much trust is given atomatically to other members of the group whether they actually are trustworthy or not. I do hold WT reponsible for insisting their rules be followed they cross the line when they control others, they control others through fear obligation and guilt - IOW indoctrination.

  WT is a high control group that needs to be exposed as such so people can see it for themselves and leave or not join in the first place and if lawsuits and bad press will help that happen then great.

  Of course laws changing is worthwhile goal and there are good people working tirelessly for that but victims of WT have the right to do whatever they need to so I will not be judging them for suing WT anytime soon.
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  The law WT should be following is a moral one NOT mandated by state or country but by conscience.

  M.O.R.A.L. Why? Because they claim to follow the law of love!
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  What Was Your Favorite Kingdom Song?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  funny but for whatever reason, i can't stop singing walking in integrity from the old songbook!

  it's in my head and in my opinion it was one of the few songs i really liked..

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  My favourite KS was the one with lyrics that say....um let me see if I can remember them..oh yeah

  ....nothing ever grows in this rotten old hole and everthing is stunted and lost..

  ...like a bat out of hell I 'll be gone when the morning comes

  ....like a bat out of hell I'll be gone gone gone

  Oops sorry right sentiment but NOT a kingdom song.

  I didn't have a favourite propaganda song I hated them all equally, though, some of them were effective as ear-worms.
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  JW employing pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

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  what do you think about using pre-teens to work religious propaganda phonebank?.

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  I think that the WT are gutless wonders encouraging and allowing chlldren to do their dirtywork for them and be used as a recruiting tool.

  Shame WT shame. Are their any other ways you can put children at risk is "witnessing" online next?
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  Honest Questions About Child Abuse

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have two honest questions for everyone here.

  i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

  but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

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  Why aren't WT as the self proclaimed most moral loving caring people on earth changing their policies to make it 100% clear to any and all of it's members that child abuse is a matter for the police and NOT the elders to investigate and re traumatize victims with their inept inappropriate and irresponsiby cruel questions that they have no business asking of victims???

  What are WT doing to work with police and report even when not required to by law?

  Guardians of Doctrine my ass.

  Guardians of Pedophiles more like and certainly NOT Guardians of Children!