Posts by sparrowdown

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

sparrowdown

Yes. I met an apostate in the D2D work she told me she was a witness and she no longer believed JWs "had the truth." Intrigued and feeling I needed to show compassion to this "arrogant" woman (lol) I listened to her. I asked her if she worried about armageddon and she said if some kind of armageddon came she would take her chances but refused to keep her life on hold for a religion and that I would do well to do the same.

She said many other things and they stayed with me.

Looking back I was already waking up at this point but I always felt great sympathy for apostates and ones that drifted away seeing for myself the great pain many were in when they left made me wonder why. I felt in my heart it was the religion and it's smallminded bigotry and harsh unattainable standards that broke many a spirit and caused them to leave in cruel circumstances.

I think it was my own eyes, ears and conscience that woke me up but an old arsehole CO amd his first lady powerbitch wife helped seal the deal in the end, but I am grateful to that apostate lady for speaking her mind to me so courageously.

So thankyou apostates, drifters, faders and "weak ones" who turned out to be the strong ones your struggle did not go unnoticed and it helped alot.

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wt exposer makes jw's flip out in fs

by JunkYardDog in

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i forgot my wallet and went back home to get it.

i see 25 yr old jws working the door next to me.

i attack shaking my head at them.

sparrowdown

Smiddy - I've heard similar rants by self righteous JWs scoffing contemptously at anyone from mormons to buskers to raffle ticket sellers.

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wt exposer makes jw's flip out in fs

by JunkYardDog in

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friends

i forgot my wallet and went back home to get it.

i see 25 yr old jws working the door next to me.

i attack shaking my head at them.

sparrowdown

Heaven forbid a JW actually be offended, oh the horror lol. Let's face it it doesn't take much to offend a jw they come pre-primed for offense.

I remember JWs bragging about how they sent mormons and people collecting for charity packing for daring to come to their door! Oh the crazy irony.

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Lot's Wife - Connect the dots - JW.org

by Funchback in

yay!

now kids can help draw lot's wife getting destroyed.. .

sparrowdown

.W_.T .I_.S .A .C_.U_.L_.T

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wt exposer makes jw's flip out in fs

by JunkYardDog in

jw
friends

i forgot my wallet and went back home to get it.

i see 25 yr old jws working the door next to me.

i attack shaking my head at them.

sparrowdown

If you go knocking on stranger's doors in an attempt to convert them you should expect to be challenged.

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What would happen in the resurrection

by Anony Mous in

we all know the jw doctrine of life and resurrection on earth after armageddon.

this video inadvertently explores the flaws in the doctrine.

https://youtu.be/l-s34gz3xwg.

sparrowdown

WT teaches that the body is the soul and it dies so how is it that the annointed appear to have seperate "souls" that become detached from their physical bodies at the time death and go to heaven while the great crowd's "soul" dies with the body awaiting a reassembling of their atoms and re animation at a future date? Does that mean the 144000 are "souls" housed within a body and the great crowd shmucks are soul less?

WT's resurrection doctrine is so full of shit in more ways than one.

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You tired of me asking for help yet?

by vienne in

an early watch tower evangelist was e. c. leigh.

in 1882, he was a student in allegheny city, pennsylvania.

he traveled through the central states in the 1880s and early 1890s.

sparrowdown

As a disaffected (shunned) member myself I can say that witnesses being "uncomfortable" with me would have to be the understatement of the year lol.

If you have never been witness it would be very difficult if not impossible to know where we are coming from even if you have family that are witnesses that didn't kick you to the kerb when they became witnesses.

I believe you have to have lived it yourself to "get it" and not just by proxy.

The view of JWs as a group is a very different view from the outside than the view from inside the compound. This group rewrites it's own official history to suit it's power and control agenda, but I am assuming your research is a dispassionate, unbiased account of verifiable history not a social commentary or a WT propoganda piece like the proclaimers book.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

sparrowdown

Several things going on here.

WT loves to rewrite it's own history right before the eyes of it's members.

They're gaslighting apostates, critics and any that have clear memories of that time.

They're cementing the new reality into the minds of the ones who were not around or were too young to remember that time.

They're effectively creating a "mandela effect" ie two versions of reality or IOW pulling a swifty.

Thankyou WT aka Bastards Inc.

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Why is the white race so different?

by Crazyguy in

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what i'm saying is the white race is the only one that has a verity of eye and hair colors , so what gives?

is it that this race was influenced genetically by a group of pre humans that didn't mix with other races?

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sparrowdown

Physical differences between races and gender is real ask any Dr what the disease and conditions certain races and gender are prone to get. Human rights on the other hand are a completely different subject. It's a pity people seem to confuse these two seperate issues so much it shuts down interesting, relevant discussion with a cry of racism or sexism.

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Leaving it all behind.

by Jazzbo in

i haven't been on an exjw site for months and months.

i frankly am way past the point where i define myself as an exjw, i am who i am and it doesn't have really anything to do with the way i was raised or spent a considerable portion of my life, i also refuse to be bound by witness requirements as to leaving, contact with witnesses, or some kind of responsibility to whack people who seem perfectly happy as witnesses over the head with 'the truth about the truth'.

i have recently run in to a few people that seems to simply obsess with their lives as witnesses and why they left and in some cases the way they were treated or mistreated, or the need to "do" something.

sparrowdown

Yes, you are criticizing and if you have "moved on" so successfully why bother to come back after "months and months" to bitch about the "few people" you "ran into" recently who "obsess" with their lives as witnesses? What do want a medal?