Posts by sparrowdown

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Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

by JW GoneBad in

circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

and everything is caught on video!.

kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

sparrowdown

To me this is an example of what a witness would classify as "high alert" paranoids like JWs deem anyone that has a differing opinion and voices it is a "dangerous" individual so to them this is truly "high alert" situation rather than just an annoying situation. JWs are not known for their perspective or objectivity. This is just sillines.

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I encountered JWs in street a couple of weeks ago.

by Chook in

i was at my brother in laws house and seen them on opposite of road so i went and sat on brick fence ahead of their route, as they walked pasted they asked is this your house to which i responded no.

i asked what are you selling, then they showed me a tract.

my first question was to this middle aged couple was " what is the youngest age someone in your church gets baptised?

sparrowdown

Lies straight off the bat I wasn't aware of any age restrictions to baptism.

No, a JW or a child of a JW cannot go and examin other religions willy-nilly without repercussions.

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Just because something is old, does not mean it is "Special" or "Sacred" or "Valuable"

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought occurred to me that simply because something is old does not make it valuable or worthy of sacred reverence.. the bible is held up as sacred just because it is "old" and apparently preserved.. but, that does not make sense.

if in thousands of years someone finds a notebook of my scribbles or sketches that i threw away, that doesn't elevate them to "valuable status" simply because they survived.

they were thrown away because they were worthless.. or if an archaeologist finds an ancient broken bit of pottery that was used for garbage disposal, it doesn't change its status from what it once was - a garbage bin.. i guess what i am trying to ask is, why is it that we as humans give value to writings just because they are old?.

sparrowdown

I love old shit I find it all fascinating whether a 2000yr old hair comb or the earliest graffiti from an ancient Banksi but never again will I live by it.

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Please tell me: what is a relationship with the "person" Jehovah like?

by Maryo in

does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?

for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?

an intellectual understanding?

sparrowdown

I prefer my imaginary friends to be funny.

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

sparrowdown

Oh and as far as so-called "aggressive" activists they made me curious I wondered what they so upset about.

I always asked myself why? Why were they protesting "God's people" and I was not one to be satisfied with the standard JW vending machine answers like "they have turned their back on Jehovah" or "they must have done the wrong thing and now they're angry that they're disfellowshipped" those excuses didn't add up because I knew personally ones that had tried hard to stay faithful and wanted it to be the truth and make it work, so them just "being bad" didn't make sense.

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

sparrowdown

Yes. I met an apostate in the D2D work she told me she was a witness and she no longer believed JWs "had the truth." Intrigued and feeling I needed to show compassion to this "arrogant" woman (lol) I listened to her. I asked her if she worried about armageddon and she said if some kind of armageddon came she would take her chances but refused to keep her life on hold for a religion and that I would do well to do the same.

She said many other things and they stayed with me.

Looking back I was already waking up at this point but I always felt great sympathy for apostates and ones that drifted away seeing for myself the great pain many were in when they left made me wonder why. I felt in my heart it was the religion and it's smallminded bigotry and harsh unattainable standards that broke many a spirit and caused them to leave in cruel circumstances.

I think it was my own eyes, ears and conscience that woke me up but an old arsehole CO amd his first lady powerbitch wife helped seal the deal in the end, but I am grateful to that apostate lady for speaking her mind to me so courageously.

So thankyou apostates, drifters, faders and "weak ones" who turned out to be the strong ones your struggle did not go unnoticed and it helped alot.

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