a close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
Elder's daughters are allowed to have worldly BFFs now are they?
Good for her for supporting her friend in a time of need but frankly what did she expect her parents are JW duh!
Note to PIMO people for future reference - be more discreet about your activities.
i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.
i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.
but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.
What gets me is the "that's not my experience" aka the "I ve never seen that" argument. A close relative of the "I know nice such and such people" argument but just as irrelevant.
As has already been said, assessments of ideologies are not dependent upon such things as "niceness" or politeness or limited personal experience or whether the uniforms are cool (hyperbole with that last one).
Does it matter that JW parents were "sooo nice" about it as they allowed their child to die when blood transfusion would have saved them? Does it matter if the mafia goon that executes you is such a gentlemen? Does it matter if the kkk have great bbqs and picnics? None of those things have anything to do the ideologies of the group, in fact many of those groups use "nice" acts to recruit, effectively honey-trap people into coming on board with their evil ideologies or lulled into tolerating abhorrent teachings.
The niceness factor is a distraction trap from the real issues.
Now, can you all stop violating me with your differing opinions.
something that has often struck me in my morning musings is: why should “god’s people” ever need to hide or flee in fear?.
there are numerous accounts recorded in the bible, both ot and nt, where prophets, kings, apostles and others have either been told to flee and hide or have just experienced that normal human feeling of fear and have fled and hidden instinctively.
even recently, the wtbts has produced vivid images in the wt magazine and videos of “god’s people” hiding out in bunkers to avoid detection.. is it just another broken promise from jehober that he will “without fail” protect “his people”?
How would religion ever control anybody if protection was always guaranteed?
One of WT's weapons of choice is fear followed closely by obligation and guilt.
Why? Because it works. It keeps people asleep, ignorant and obedient. Just the use of the words "flee" "hide" from an authority figure causes fear and panic, religion has known this for centuries.
londo111 » each congregation has a “talk coordinator”.
talk coordinators will coordinate with other talk coordinators in order to find speakers to give the public talk on sunday.
typically, they come from the general area: the circuit or a nearby circuit.
Good to know what someone's bias is.
absolutely beautiful!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbmfx4isku.
Touche! This guy's got balls.
i left the religion back in the early 2000's, tell you the truth it's been so long now i've been out i don't remember exactly when i left.
i definitely used this site a lot when i first left and it was a great asset.
when i left i somehow managed to get my parents to come with me.
If want to find out how controlling and authoritarian they are watch the broadcasts and convention videos for 2016/17.
I think you will notice that faders, drifters, weak ones and materialistic ones are still pieces of shit and to be avoided. DFed are still dead to them and apostates are still lying mentally diseased shit stirrers who they have a right to hate. Oh, and gay people are disgusting!
the watchtower (no.3 2017) bangs an old, very tired drum in its efforts to stir up interest in the "meaning" of the 4 horseman of the apocalypse.
it joins a cluttered stage of drummers - present and past - who claim to have the final and true word about this psychotic vision of 2 thousand years ago.. if you can get passed a casual, eye-rolling read, you'll note some changes in this latest regurgitation - with some astonishing changes given what is left out.. here's what i spotted:.
soothing words about claimed cataclysmic events (e.g., "[the vision] is not designed to scare you.
Interesting list of exclusions, especially the one about it being a hallucintion experienced by the Apostatle John that can be explained in one word - shrooms.
The artcle should also come with a "your brain on drugs" warning.
hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.
first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.
she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).
Yes, she is brainwashing the kids because she is brainwashed!
See my previous post.
hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.
first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.
she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).
JWs do not listen this makes it very hard to reason with them. Their religious devotion is a like form of narcissim and they are trained to choose their religion over everything else. The indoctrination they receive each and every week leaves them unbalanced in their decision making and words like rational and logical are simply not part of their vocabulary. Nor is consideration for anyone else's personal wishes or respect for decisions not consistent with their JW worldview and mindset. All this, in their mind, is perfectly justified and if you bring it to their attention you are the demanding one.
Sucks I know but there you have it.
I agree with Steve you're being too nice. Continue to state what your wishes are clearly and consistently and maybe it's time to tell her you have respected her religion and her beliefs but now it's time for that arrangement to be reciprocal and she needs to respect your wishes and your beliefs also.
Good luck.
3 male passengers then get out and start stabbing / shooting people according to early reports.. but it could have been anyone for any reason, who knows, possibly jehovahs witnesses or amish.. maybe we'll never know the reason but i'm sure there will be people praying for those involved and hashtags.. thus solving the problem once and for all.. just "life in a big city" according to the muslim mayor of london, sadiq khan..
The peace signs and hashtags solution aka the pussyfication of a nation to accept terror as normal.
