Posts by sparrowdown

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Is All The Bad Publicity About The Watchtower Pedophile Lawsuits Causing Contributions To Nose Dive Worldwide?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.

the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.

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I think the real donation killer amongst JWs is bored out of their brain apathy.

How could JWs not feel redundant now that witnessing has been replaced by a video and a cart and teaching has been replaced by a website.

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Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

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Wow sparky! Mystery solved then. The real "demon" was the toyboy husband and JW bitches be crazy.

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Jehovah uses the government to discipline his people

by StephaneLaliberte in

i had a conversation with my dad concerning the legal cases the jws are loosing and how their policies are still lacking.

he answered that he has confidence that jehovah will give his people the wisdom and discernment necessary to make the changes.

i then explained that most of the improvements were made as a result of various court cases, including the australian commission.. my dad: well, than, jehovah uses the governments to discipline his people just like he did with the jews.

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Interesting comment @orphan crow. Thanks.

I knew nothing of that info you wrote there in your comment but when a JW myself I always felt JW heirachy saw them selves was the new and improved Jewish in this arrogant "we can be better Jews than the Jews" kind of way.

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Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

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Oo, oo we had a sister who was demon-buster in our cong. No shit, she would say that anyone with mental illness was under demon attack and so desperate sisters always sisters (eye roll) would invite her into their homes and she would go through everything with them and collect up the items they would need to destroy.

Sort of like decluttering for demonic hoarders lol.

Once her and another sister said after one of these sessions they actually saw a demon on the road outside the sister's house! I shit you not!

Demons though? No just very stressed, unhappy, confused, people under the control of a demanding asshole of a cult.

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I am grateful for leaving the watchtower corporation. Innit!

by punkofnice in

i dislike long topics......so here it is.. i suffered for my religion, now it's your turn.. when i first left the corporation my life exploded into a suicidal chaos.. my family broke up.

i lost my so called friends.. luckily, i had worldly friends from all walks of life that supported me, even though they had no idea why i was so suicidal.

in as much as they hadn't left cults.. i went from the corporation to a baptist church.

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Aw tah, punk.

Your post inspired me.

Lol at the caterpillar, never heard that one before.

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"we would never deliberately distort a quotation"

by ttdtt in

omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.

and that the make sure its always in context!.

they are such liars!.

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Too right BOC they know exactly what they're doing.

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I am grateful for leaving the watchtower corporation. Innit!

by punkofnice in

i dislike long topics......so here it is.. i suffered for my religion, now it's your turn.. when i first left the corporation my life exploded into a suicidal chaos.. my family broke up.

i lost my so called friends.. luckily, i had worldly friends from all walks of life that supported me, even though they had no idea why i was so suicidal.

in as much as they hadn't left cults.. i went from the corporation to a baptist church.

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When I first left it it was like riding an emotional roller-coaster with extreme highs and devastating lows but exciting as hell.

Research became an addiction in fact still is, whenever I was alone or had free time I would read whatever I could and the rush I got from doing so was intoxicating like breathing for the first time. I didn't watch you tubes straight away they seemed too scary but when I did couldn't get enough of them either.

Those were the highs the lows came because I was completely alone in doing so and I was terrified of getting caught. The realisation that there was no turning back caused me to have panic attacks. In fact I have never felt so alone but there was no way I was going to stop so I felt caught between a rock and a hard place. I was so unhappy those last few years in it was a relief to be getting some control back in my life even if it was covert.

Slowly slowly I am learning to deal to cope.

Everyone still there but gone like ghosts or am I the ghost because I'm still here but gone to them too.

Glad to have left that crazy-arse religion but it was tough in the way that only someone that has gone through it would know what it was like to be JW and how crushingly painful it is to wake up and leave.

So if you've never been a JW you don't get to say how I should feel or react or that I 'm just imagining it or WT is really just misunderstood and not so bad...etc blah blah stop gaslighting me!

But hey, the butterfly has to struggle for some time to emerge from a cocoon and it can only do it alone.

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Jwsurvey and Trey Bundy

by DATA-DOG in

good evening, or morning, whatever the case may be.. just a couple of points about the jw monthly broadcast, and the "two witness" rule.

i'm tired, so i'm going to be brief.. 1) i had a nice conversation with trey bundy about the flaws in the wt's "logic" concerning their pet scripture in deuteronomy.

in short, their rnwt ( the most accurate translation of all time, because the fds were involved...) says that no one person can be convicted on the testimony of one witness.

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Their slavish adherence to selected parts of OT law when it suits them is infuriating.

They truly "strain the gnat and gulp the camel."

I agree their twisted reasonings that ruin lives should be shouted form every available rooftop.

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ExJW responsible for calling the police at the Warwick protest, NOT Watchtower

by Diogenesister in

according to the great apostate, who spent time with police officers at the protest, they informed him that it was not watchtower who called the police in but another exjw who briefly attended the protest and subsequently disapproved of the protesters methods...claiming they were being "violent".. i find this very difficult to understand.

anyone who saw the bravery of the women who stood up in the kingdom hall and told the story of their abuse and rape could not fail to feel compassion and offer their support.. i know there are posters on this forum who disagree with me.they worry that such protests play into watchtowers "persecution" complex, and naturally i understand their position.. but really, how long do we have to fear their power over their members, and through their members, us.. many jw's simply do not know the extent of the paedophile problem,.they do not know about malawi, the un, the bloodless surgery guinea pig deaths ( thank you orphan crow), the suicides....i simply don't believe that protests don't work....if there are enough of them, and they are organized, and most of all if we are united...we shall make a difference, and that difference may be your loved one.. https://youtu.be/ffhr9onbdrk.

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Yeah Listener is right this guy is that ex Bible Student Lloyd interviewed on his YT channel.

What has any of this got to do with him except maybe he thinks he's being a flying monkey for Lloyd.

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Can some one please explain Deuteronomy 23:12-13

by Jayk in

at a bible study when i was younger i read this scripture out loud and totally did with a straight face realising what they were talking about halfway through it.

i think i start reading in verse 12 "when evening falls, he should wash with water, and then he may return to the camp at sunset.+ 12 a private place* should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.

13 a peg should be part of your equipment.

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Basically what nowhat said.