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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  sparrowdown

  Without all the info on WT''s activities and business plans all we can do is take a stab based on what's public and/or can be observed.

  Mass exodus as in the majority of the congregation upping and walking in one fell swoop I doubt it. A slow dribble is more likely but a tipping point will be reached eventually if they did absolutely nothing. They are in the process of changing to a religion of movie producers and JWTV so I'll see where that goes before I cry "ding dong the bitch is dead."

  But, where are you up to on this thread, from what I see SBF is now actually providing a community service of fact assembly and deployment - I'm impressed, very creative way of announcing your opinion on available selected facts.

  I really feel that what you see is definitely not all there is with WTBTS so I'll continue to watch this space.
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  Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

  i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.

  but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.

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  Necessary? If you wanna run with the big dogs of activism and atheism then it helps to have a few books under your belt in leiu of actual qualifications that is.

  The next one will be something like The Reluctant Athiest or The Reluctant Apostate Heads West.
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  If you're expecting a mass exodus anytime soon, FORGET ABOUT IT!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have to make a token appearance at the k.h.

  once a month or so and this week went to a different hall.

  and believe me they are all still totally oblivious to all the negative news about the pedophiles and shunning that have come under scrutiny by the media and other governments.

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  R they all the measured and considered threads discussing the borg's near future, as we speak, imminent, collapse, crumble, bust and demise, Morpheus?

  Wow there are that many huh.
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  Is porn really such a big problem in the wt?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  in the most recent circuit assembly there was a lot about porn and warning against porn.

  even warning against looking at swim wear adverts!

  so i was wondering, is porn really such an issue in the wt?.

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  I'm going to be more cynical and say that they know full well that if they tell people not to think about a pink elephant or a pink elephant in a g-string pole dancing that's exactly what people's brains will do. Which of course induces more guilt and shame which in turn ratchets up the fear of becoming toast at the big A or at least being thrown in the bin like a contaminated garlic bread and so the cycle of contol continues.
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  Special Talk

  by EmptyInside in

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  anyone listen to the "special" talk today?

  i guess it was given by one of the governing body members and shown at all the halls.

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  Terry Obrien was just lying for his bosses like they all were. Jackson lied his arse off too remember. In fact in every court appearance by a WT representative that representative has denied, obfuscated, deflected and when that failed outright lied through their teeth.
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  If the Disfelowshupp /Shunning araingment is so loveing

  by poopie in

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  why out of 52 convention outlines it's not mentioned 1 time?.

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  Because shhh they don't like to talk about it.
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  Massive hints against alcohol

  by purrpurr in

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  in the most recent assembly there were several heavy hints about not drinking alcohol at all.

  saying that it doesn't give a good witness or would stumble others.. is this a new "unwritten directive?.

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  I hardly ever consumed alcohol in front of other JWs anyway. Who needs those judgy looks and to hand them on a plate potential grist for the gossip mill.
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  WT study

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it became rare, i thought, when considering last weekends study article.

  it became rare, that most of the message is actually quite ok. the gist was to avoid loving oneself, money and pleasures more than god.

  thats ok, if you're a believer.. this was my take until i saw the pictures, and discovered the real message behind the article.. as often, they use pictures to contrast bad and good behaviour (in their eyes at least).

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  To not love yourself is actually bad advice. If you do not "love"/ care for yourself you are no use to anybody else even a burden.

  If you love "God" more than one's own life or family it can be the excuse for all sorts of calllous, irresponsible behavior. Useful advice for a cult though.
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  2017 Film "The Dark Tower" written by Stephen King

  by Not_Culty in

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  at 18:21 features old watchtower headquarters in a slow scan.

  for many of us its the real dark tower.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1648190/.

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  Was the movie any good?
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  Why are there more sisters than brothers at the Kingdom Hauls?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have always wondered why there are more females than males in all of the congregations that i have visited?

  some of these females are in their 70's so maybe their husbands have died and women just live longer.

  or could the reason be that years ago men were the breadwinners and women stayed home to raise the children thus they were home during the week when the jdubs came a knocking?

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  Aclue makes an interesting point.

  "When males preach from the platform what other males need to do..."

  Yes, many sisters like this aspect of the meetings that the elders will "whip their man into shape" and the comraderie they recieve from the other "widows" (spiritual) or divorced women (divorced sometimes because of the religion) reinforces this attitude.