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  Is it clergy privilege?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.

  regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.

  would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?

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  My opinion is this

  When Uncle Perv admits to elders his "sin" after being accused of it and after being summoned and questioned about it it's NOT a confession in the "confessional" sense of the word it's an admission of guilt that should be taken straight to authorities.
  

  When a child tells an adult about Uncle Perv they are asking for help NOT a confession.

  When goodness knows how many elders and NON elders sit around or phone around basically gossiping about whether a victim is a victim or a liar and what sort of spiritual man the accused is it's NOT clergy penitant privilege by a loooong shot.
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  Research help needed: knowledge of Knights Templar and Masonic history vital

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am in conversation with a uk historian regarding some knights templar locations, where jws have built buildings.

  *** this is serious research - not a joke *** .

  i am not - and do not wish to be - a conspiracy theorist, but something has come to light in the uk and i lack the knowledge of knights templar + masons.

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  I wish you the best with your research Fay it can be a deep, confusing and not to mention time consuming labrynth of a subject to research with many dead ends and red herrings that as you have already gathered not many people have the patience for, but what you have said so far sounds intriguing I hope you get some solid information. I do think there are questions surrounding WT, their origin story, various business dealings and activities, decisions they have made and why they have made them the list is long that have not adequately been answered and they possibly never will. I wish you luck.
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  Not Being Invited To Gatherings.

  by kennylazo1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever found out that your "buddies" from the kingdom hall went out to have fun and did not invite you?

  if so how did you feel?.

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  Being excluded at times is part of the human experiences and many successful people considered themselves to be social outcasts and not fitting in throughout their lives. Being excluded can actually work for you sometimes if you let it.

  The thing that makes it annoying with JWs is they claim to be the truest, the happiest, the Christiest most wonderful loving bosom of a religion in the whole wide wicked world.

  So when the "most loving people" on earth reject you what does that do to a person?

  I used to be offended by it now I see it as a good thing that I never fitted in with assholes.
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  Only one real point per WT study...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  it's like a formula.

  intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).

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  Service meetings and FS groups are essentially sales meetings.
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  Miss America and Misguided Views on Sexuality

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  so miss america pageant is going to remove the swimsuit and evening gown parts of their pageant because they have decided it's demeaning to women.

  i guess it will just be women in overcoats telling us they want world peace .... bravo, we all applaud, right?

  maybe we shouldn't be so quick to do so .... what is it really saying?

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  Where does it stop because there are many industries that rely on beautiful people to sell it. Plus, there's the double standard when it comes to things like this. Have you ever witnessed the embarrassing trainwreck of a drunken hen's night with male strippers? It's a phalic worship night.

  I'm assuming in a perfect new world where everyone and everything is equal male strippers and body builders beautiful male pop stars will be banned also because you know of the whole people are not to be oggled like prize cattle to be paraded around thing?
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  Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

  it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

  it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

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  Thing is, I highly doubt any similar future cases will go so well for the business, that is if you call the baker himself being labelled across the world as a hate filled raging homophobe things going well for him???

  Anyway, the case hinged on gay marriage not being legal at the time so the business owner was within his rights to legally decline the business. Now... whisk up people because you're all making whatever the hell sort of cake we order you to!

  The real issue is how far does religious freedoms go and whether a person should be able to practise their religious beliefs as a business person. It's a question that will need to be answered eventually and probably will as time goes by and this conflict presents itself more often.
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  I've graduated at last

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after a bit of a kerfuffle over a procedural matter, my university has awarded me a degree.

  (the procedural problem was caused by my independent selection of what i wanted to study).

  award : bachelor of arts.

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  Cograts and cheers.
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  BOE letter 2018-06-01 Announcements

  by Fay Dehr in

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  AA - I thought the same, it's good idea to keep properties in good repair if you plan on selling them at any time.
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  BOE letter 2018-06-01 Announcements

  by Fay Dehr in

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  sparrowdown

  Good to know many of the applications are incomplete making more work for them.

  Maybe everyone still going to meetings should fill in as many volunteer forms as possible and leave off details just to clog up their system. Lol.
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  Only one real point per WT study...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone else noticed that in the wt study articles the main point they want you to remember is always somewhere around paragraph 11-14?

  it's like a formula.

  intro and overview paragraphs 1-4. basic wt stuff 5-8 (not controversial).

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  They are a cult after all. There's probably a cult recipe book for such things.