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  Stuck in JWs are in a toxic relationship

  by skeeter1 in

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  are "stuck in" jws in a toxic relationship?

  this past two weeks, i've been realizing that a few of my jw relatives are very toxic people (they fit the description below).

  i realized that alot of ex-jws who are stuck dealing with jws may also be in a toxic relationship.

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  So many good points there as it is so easy to 'lose" yourself in a toxic relationship.

  Finding your voice is key and as you point out that's where assertiveness training comes in handy- for

  drawing up the "terms and conditions" of the relationship, so to speak.

  As LostGen said adding "jehovah" factor to the equation makes it impossible to negotiate a healthy

  relationship with that person as they have to run everything past their WT trained conscience first.

  At some point you have to ask the yourself "is this really worth it?".

  With some people it's a case of "call me when you can think for yourself, and our relationship means more to you than the WT does".
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  What did Russell mean by this statement?

  by LogCon in

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  speaking of dwight moody and his associates, pastor russell wrote:.

  it is our thought that the lord used these men, and through their ministry the fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881. .

  why 1881?.

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  I always got the idea that these "ordained" dates and "completed numbers" like the 144000 etc were based on their greed

  in keeping the number going to heaven (and subsequent"ruling class") small.

  Even in the early days they were power hungry and wanted all the "good oil" kept for a select few.
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  I'm sitting here listening to a JW try to recruit somebody

  by Terry in

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  i'm at starbucks .

  just outside in the courtyard.. i'm trembling.

  my hands are shaking.. wow!.

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  Nice try Tezza, I remember saying all the same sorts of things to people who tried to get me to think.

  I tried my best to be very genuine and sincere out witnessing but I was still completely hoodwinked by the borg.

  It's like trying to talk to a heroine addict, talking to a JW.
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  Did You Ever Get Screwed By A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  witnesses are supposed to be the "most honest people in the world".

  most jws i know of do not put business deals in writing.

  they simply "trust their brother".

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  I have painful, vivid memories of being lied and gossiped about- if that counts as "screwed".

  JWs can be the most malicious, backstabbers I have ever met.

  They have a particular kind of hell-on-earth reserved for people they have decided to hate.

  And yes, all the while pretending to be the most loving people on the planet.
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  Everybody Was Kung Fu Fighting

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i regularly make time for listening to music, which usually spans many genres.

  thank you you tube!

  i'm interested in rhythms, and expert timming, the most esential part on good musianship.

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  I enjoy music too, in fact at times it has been my "saviour".

  You tube is great for finding all the different covers of your favourite songs.

  At the moment I have been enjoting all the latest covers of "Bang, Bang".

  Happy listening frankie
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  Do You Ever Think That You "Loved" Jehovah God?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really wonder about that.

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  just like they say in prayers, that they "love" the governing body---do they really??

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  "Jehovah- God" is a WT invention, he's a "catfish" God.

  The "God" "creator" "father" blahdy blah, on the other hand yes I did love him once.
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  Drama friday 2014 DC

  by inbetween in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone seen the drama on friday ?.

  it was about a pioneer couple, when the husband, also an elder, lost his job, and borrowed money from a fellwo elder, who apparently was considered weatlthy.. the main lesson of the drama was quite ok, even though a bit overdone, touching on the issue of gossip and false assumptions.. but there were at least two subtle lessons, whitch were quite disturbing:.

  1) no matter what happens, remain pioneering.

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  The lesson I take away from the drama is that the only thing JWs are suckier at (other than being truthful) is acting in pantomime/dramas.
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  Something Big is Coming...

  by notsurewheretogo in

  1. watchtower
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  the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.

  "at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

  all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".

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  I know, they are going to bottle air, label it "Holy Spirit" and pass it out at RCs.
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  "Follow the Golden Rule in your ministry" (WT study July 14-20)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow...just wow!.

  this article to be studied next week, is one of the most distorted articles on the subject of showing love....or as jesus stated: "the golden rule" matt 7:12. instead of looking at what it means to show love to members of the community, it is purely designed for witnesses to use in the "field ministry/service".

  all about how to approach people with the message etc.... they have completely hijacked the scripture and applied it to pushing the message out in service, instead of how to apply true christian principles in all aspects of one's life!.

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  You are right stuck, how very jetarded of them. Oh, and "pushing the message out in service" ??

  If that message is supposed to be love then they are severely constipated.

  Going D2D = free advertising for the borg.
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  I am doing Fab!!!!!!!!

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey everyone,.

  well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.

  our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.

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  Never underestimate the insidious way the indoctrination sessions *uck with your self esteem, self confidence, and sanity.

  Pack your bags you are going on a WT induced 12mnth guilt trip.