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  Who did you believe the scriptures were describing when you were a JW?

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  it never hit me until i was out.

  matt:23;4 "they tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them.

  on other people shoulders".

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  Simple. If the scripture was condemning certain attitudes or behaviors then it was referring to Christendom, Satan's world or the dreaded apostates.

  If the scriptures were describing goodness, righteousness and holiness it was describing the GB, the 144 000, the pioneers/missionaries and sometimes if we were lucky just regular non-titled JWs.

  Ahh, those were the days when life was simple and no thinking, genuine feeling or conversation was required. A world of never-ending happiness where you can always see the sun, day or night. So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills......hang on a minute, I'm getting confused with the intro to a Prince song. Anyway.....

  The simple life of the mind controlled cult member, what's not to love.
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  Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.

  here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.

  1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.

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  Care Less Accept More - ???
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  Some thoughts on the new midweek meeting

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new midweek meeting has been running for a month now.

  here are my thoughts on how it is going so far:.

  1) elders are looking frazzled from being on virtually every meeting and having to prepare unfamiliar formats for items.

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  I think the most important observation you make is "there is no longer any room for any form of individualism.."

  Whatever individualism we think we have as JWs is illusory anyway, but even what little opportunity there was for personal application of material is going, going gone.

  I think that's exactly the GB's intention. Do not go off script.
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  When you Go to Bethel, You Sign Over Your Dead Body.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".

  yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.

  besides we were never going to die anyway.

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  Maybe they are putting together body parts to make the ultimate frankenbethelite?
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  When you Go to Bethel, You Sign Over Your Dead Body.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".

  yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.

  besides we were never going to die anyway.

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  I am shocked, shocked I tell you. Seriously, my flabber has never been so gasted!!

  I have never heard this before, these bastards must truly be evil.

  Sign away your body??? Now that takes the cake.
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  Did you KNOW Ray and Cynthia or the legal copyright holder? Only a few maybe had limited contact.

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have known all of them over the last 15 years, talked at length with them, and knew what their wishes were, the copyright holder and spouse spent even more time with them socially and helping them set up their arrangements for when ray and cynthia passed.

  i don't believe that anyone else on this board or others was a confidant.

  there is no need to prove it to anyone but the copyright office which is satisfied with this.

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  I would like to agree with your comment re other great books.

  Maybe we should compile a list of books to "wake up" by.
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  "Even if it isn't the truth, it's still the best way to live"

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you heard that old chestnut?

  i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.

  they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..

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  I met a JW lady yesterday who said it was no longer the "generation that will not pass away" but an "era" that will not pass away.

  I thought WTH??? Is that what you tell yourselves now to justify wasting your life?
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  All shunning soon to end

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  this is just a first step clapping.

  it's like the fed one quarter bases point at a time.

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  You have said this before poopie, I don't see it - yet. That is not to say it's not possible WT can turn on a dime if they have reason to do so, but as far as I can tell shunning still works for them.

  I think the clapping after someone has been reinstated could be interpreted as one more step to becoming a happy-clappy singing dancing religion.
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  You Are Unsuitable!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today's text -.

  sunday, january 24. they collected the fine ones into containers, but the unsuitable they threw away.—matt.

  13:48.. understanding the lesson of this illustration helps us to avoid being overly distraught or disappointed if a bible student or one of our children does not make the truth his own.

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  Not "suitable" = not suitable for WT mind control.

  I am sooo no longer suitable - and loving it!
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  "There will be earthquakes...."

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  given: the prophecy is true.. what did jesus mean?

  i have an app that alerts me of any earthquake all over the world.

  since i got the app, it is one earthquake after another all over the world.

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  Excellent question Blues brother.