i was appointed as an elder when i turned 30, 25 years ago.
which was the norm back then.. now, i very rarely here of a young man becoming an elder.
in our town we have 2 english congregations.
I forgot to mention it was late 1975 when Jehoovers holy ghost picked me to be an elder at age 25 or so.
Funny, the local elder body ( roofer, carpenter, cement mason, carpet cleaner, etc) asked me if there was anything that could keep me from being appointed an elder- I said No (haha), expecting jehoover to know better - NOT. I later learned it's pretty much a rubber stamp process by the CO.
It all went downhill after that.-
another nauseating detail i remember from saturdays program.
there is a video (one of so many) shaming young people for being afraid to admit they are jw's.
one australian girl talks about how one of her teachers was saying jw's let their children die over the blood issue (fact) and she goes on to say how that is not true.
One of the saddest JW, no-blood, ritual suicide stories I know of--
another nauseating detail i remember from saturdays program.
there is a video (one of so many) shaming young people for being afraid to admit they are jw's.
one australian girl talks about how one of her teachers was saying jw's let their children die over the blood issue (fact) and she goes on to say how that is not true.
i'm reading a very interesting book right now "your god is too small" by the atheist republic.
it makes the point that there are two creation accounts in the bible!.
in one humans are created after the animals in the second humans are created before the animals.
I had a 30 minute discussion with Mormon missionary lads about Genesis ( and other points) 2x this year. I explained to them that Genesis is a metaphor, not literal fact. They really don't think about stuff- perhaps more so than JWs, IMO.
the last story I always leave Mormons with--
2 LDS missionaries meet 2 Jws on the sidewalk-- each unsuccessfully tries to persuade the other that they have the "truth"
There are 3 three possible choices- do you know what they are? pause-
#1- the JWs are right and Mormons are wrong
#2- The Mormons are right and JWs are wrong
#3- do you know what #3 is? ( they usually act dumb, so I have to tell them)
Its, they are both wrong! Neither one has the truth!
Man does that go over like a lead balloon- but they need to think about that possibility.
i was appointed as an elder when i turned 30, 25 years ago.
which was the norm back then.. now, i very rarely here of a young man becoming an elder.
in our town we have 2 english congregations.
if you had any doubts about the pitifully poor mental prowess of watchtower and jws in general then i'm sure this week's watchtower study (week of june 15-21, 2015) completely obliterated such doubts.
the study article (watchtower april 15, 2015, page 19: how real is your relationship with jehovah?
) was filled with blatantly fallacious reasoning that were outdone only by the more fallacious reasoning on the part of commenting jws.. the article, in paragraph 2, says this about a relationship with jehovah:.
I read a story some years ago that said the statistics from 2009-2010, showed religious church going people suffered the same amount of job loss, unemployment and foreclosure as nonreligious people.
this is the story I tell-
100 people are diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and all 100 pray for a healing.
25 people go into remission and 75 people die.
the 25 who live, tell everyone that god answered their prayers, but the 75 who are dead, can't tell anyone that prayer does not work. The moral is, prayer that doesn't work is under reported.
attackers kill 1, wound 11 at child's birthday party in detroit.. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/21/us/detroit-birthday-party-shooting/index.html.
I often ask JWs why they don't celebrate birthdays and they come back with the standard WT line-- " well, John the baptist got his head cut off", etc
So I ask them, "if it was an anniversary party instead of a birthday party, then does that mean JWs wouldn't celebrate an anniversary?"
JWs are speechless- I then explain they are using false WT logic to deduce that birthdays are forbidden for Christians.
I also ask them if they knew that very often only the kings and priests in Bible times had access to and knowledge of calendars, so the common people just didn't know what day they were born on, hence, they couldn't celebrate a birthday, even if they wanted to. I have yet to meet a JW who has thought this birthday prohibition through using sound logic.
my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.
i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.
i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!
No problem with going slow, which is a subjective definition. I think it was about 3 or 4 months after I started reading the good stuff, that I shared with my wife some ideas about blood transfusions. She just told me, "you're an apostate", so at that point I knew she had closed her mind. In my mind, I was going slow with her, too. I think that JWs today are more quick to pull the trigger on anyone who expresses opinions contrary to the current WT dogma.
My wife and I have open computers and smart phones-- she and I know each others passwords, too. There have been times when we needed to send a fax for an email and one of us wasn't home. There are no secrets in our house. Maybe, that is not the norm with spouses, today.
my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.
i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.
i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!
Lies, when do people decide, no more lies and just tell the truth. Whatever happens is what is supposed to happen at the fork in the road when you mentally leave the KH. To thine own self be true.
Maybe I was unusual, as I never lied about what I was reading, C0C book was left out in the open, Gentile times book, out in the open (1988). I talked to the elders about points I found in the books and they never asked to look at the books, never refuted what was in them,either, they just said-- "don't do it". Wrote letters to bethel and bethel only told the elders to investigate me. Funny, when they asked what was in my letters, I realized that bethel didn't tell them. I told the elders, I guess bethel can't trust you with that information, so I'm not going to tell you either-- here read the books like I did. Boy did that get them upset.
Abraham Lincoln said it best:
"No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar"It's only a matter of time before a sneak gets caught, It's better to go out taking the high and honorable road, IMO.
i posted two years ago with the same subject.
every two years i receive a summons.
for jury duty.
