Posts by DuvanMuvan

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Deuteronomy 22:28,29. Thank Jebus nobody pays attention to this f*cked up part of "God's inspired word" any more.

by DuvanMuvan in

28 if a man happens to meet a virgin girl who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies down with her and they are discovered,+29 the man who lay down with her must give the girls father 50 silver shekels, and she will become his wife.+ because he humiliated her, he will not be allowed to divorce her as long as he lives.

" -nwt 2013 revised edition.

was just on the thread about lot and his messed up family life and was reminded of another part of the bible that made me feel physically sick the first time i read it.

DuvanMuvan

28 “If a man happens to meet a virgin girl who is not engaged and he seizes her and lies down with her and they are discovered,+29 the man who lay down with her must give the girl’s father 50 silver shekels, and she will become his wife.+ Because he humiliated her, he will not be allowed to divorce her as long as he lives." -NWT 2013 revised edition

Was just on the thread about Lot and his messed up family life and was reminded of another part of the bible that made me feel physically sick the first time i read it. And what makes it worse for me is how the wt tries to put a completely different spin on this. (luckily for me this was all on the online library so anybody can see how they twist what's been written)

"If a man seduced an unengaged virgin, he had to take her as his wife; even if the father flatly refused to give her to him, he had to pay her father the purchase price for virgins (50 shekels; $110), the usual bride-price, because her diminished value as a bride would now have to be compensated for.—Ex 22:16, 17; De 22:28, 29." - it-1 494

I'm sorry but where do they get the idea that the woman in this scenario is "seduced"? The word used is "seizes" (i've also noticed that this is one of the few bible translations that didn't use the word rape) which by definition implies force was used.

Another part reads: " Under the Mosaic Law, a man committing fornication with an unengaged girl was required to marry the girl and to pay her father the purchase price for brides (50 silver shekels; $110), and he could not divorce her all his days. Even if her father refused to give him the girl in marriage, the man had to pay the purchase price to the father. ( Ex 22:16, 17; De 22:28, 29 ) " -it-1 863

Then we get to the part about the "bride-price". Because everyone knows that you can't fall in love and marry the woman of your dreams for less than 50 shekels. So much for the sanctity of marriage.

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Watchtower cover models

by Laika in

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the jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?

have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?

.

DuvanMuvan

I noticed this too and I think they just want to "put their best foot forwards" or whatever the expression is.

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

DuvanMuvan

guys can we make a rule about not saying the A word anymore? Every time i read it i can feel satan trying to posses my body and make me do the macaroni

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

DuvanMuvan

double post, but i only typed it up once... DEMONS. DEMONS EVERYWHERE.

new idea for any lurking bethelites on here. WT anti-virus software. Blocks every website except jw.org

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Spring Break! JW kids... Get to WORK!

by Faithful Witness in

while at my local gas station/convenience store this morning, satisfying my caffeine craving with a big cup of iced tea, i saw 3 separate teams of jw's on their way out into field service.. i wasn't sure at first, but after walking past the car and seeing a young boy i remember from the kh, wearing his suit and tie, it became apparent.

if he and the man escorting him (vaguely familiar to me, but not his father) had not been glaring at me with daggers in their eyes, i might have approached and said hello.

he and my daughter used to play together, even though she does not remember him at all.

DuvanMuvan

On the holidays i was always pressured to go out on fs more often and because i wasn't doing anything else i had to. That's why my friends in the kh always tried to arrange a sleepover so we wouldn't have to go out the next morning. But depending on who hosted, it didn't always work and you'd have to take a suit over with you.

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

DuvanMuvan

snowbird:" The lady in the orange blouse is me."

wait a minute. YOU'RE WEARING TROUSERS. DID YOUR HUSBAND LET YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE LIKE THAT???

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If The Organization Was A Country, Then.......?

by metatron in

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a different way to look at the organization.. suppose that the organization was a country of 8 million or so.

given that jw's believe that god will one day slaughter everyone else and leave them to inherit the globe, this is a fair matter to think about.. would "watchtowerland" be a theocracy..... like iran?.

would it be ruled by a group of old men........like the former soviet union?.

DuvanMuvan

I think it's good that emeth puts on his rebellion hat and talks on this website. It allows some of the undercover/fading ones on here to actually have a discussion about something with a jw without being labelled as scriptually weak by some wanna-be therapist. It's also funny to see just how long it takes for an active jw to realise that they're losing an argument and that not even the silver sword can save them

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If The Organization Was A Country, Then.......?

by metatron in

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friends

a different way to look at the organization.. suppose that the organization was a country of 8 million or so.

given that jw's believe that god will one day slaughter everyone else and leave them to inherit the globe, this is a fair matter to think about.. would "watchtowerland" be a theocracy..... like iran?.

would it be ruled by a group of old men........like the former soviet union?.

DuvanMuvan

If the org was a country then there'd be no need for universities or an education system of any kind i guess. Just generation after generation of home-schooled people home-schooling other people until in a few hundred/thousand years when they can't remember how to read anything except the publications

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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

by EndofMysteries in

in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

par 9 and 10 .

9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

DuvanMuvan

OUTLAW:"Where`s emeth?!"

Maybe he's gone to a dance party. Idk about you but the sisters in my old congregtion really knew how to Macerana

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How did you find the truth about the truth (TTATT)

by Maat13 in

i am sure there has been a post about this subject, however being a recent addition to the network i don't know how to do a search.

and i'm sure new folks have joined since then.

i am really curious of how others came to know ttatt.. for me is was a real bad experience with one elder after another.

DuvanMuvan

was doubting for a while because a lot of the things i was taught didnt make sense to me and one day when i was about to click onto jw.org i went onto jwfacts instead.