Posts by Black Sheep

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Is this a new "This Generation" or not?

by Doug Mason in

first of all i want to express my sincere gratitude to atlantis and his good friends for making this 2014 book available.. ------------.

as i see it, and i am absolutely open to contradiction, the wts appears to be giving another new meaning to this generation.

this time the term means all of his anointed followers, including his immediate disciples.

Black Sheep

18 How, then, may we understand Jesus' words about
"this generation"? The generation consists of two over-
lapping groups of anointed ones-the first is made up of
anointed ones who saw the beginning of the fulfillment of
the sign in 1914 and the second, anointed ones who for a

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time were contemporaries of the first group. At least some
of those in the second group will live to see the beginning
of the coming tribulation. The two groups form one gener-
ation because their lives as anointed Christians overlapped
for a time.

I don't think there is any Noo Lite.
All I see is that they have dropped the word 'evidently' and slipped in "... for a time ..." when describing the two groups as 'contemporaries', which the two groups are not.

Once more the WT has to coin a new meaning for a word, and this time, it's not even a word that Jesus used in their problem scripture, it's their own that they superimposed on it.

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July 15 Awake - strange quote and i'm not sure what else...

by Gladring in

i was trying to find the source of the michael j. tyler quote in the was it designed article in the jul 15 awake, when i came across this website.. was this posted before the magazine?

is the watchtower passing someone else's work off as their own, or the other way round?.

also, can anyone find the source of the quote?

Black Sheep

Even though the Ragazine doesn't name the source, I'm sure the book is available in many Australian libraries.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/21335093?selectedversion=NBD2677030

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Goodbye JW net

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

forgive me for indulging in a goodbye but it would feel wrong not to,.

i hope the discussions and atmosphere here do not change for it is a bubbling brew of doubt, bravery and sincere hunger for answers.

these are healthy ingrediants for humans and especially for a jehovah's witness.. this forum offers not just the ability to ask without consequence, but it also offers the means to be real.

Black Sheep

Thanks for spending some time with us

Cheers

Chris

44

Where to go from here...

by Patrickday in

i'm new around here, but i've been browsing the site the last few days in hopes of finding the answer to the situation i've been going through, so hopefully you can help me.

i met this girl in highschool, but never really spoke with her until about a year after i graduated.

she's three years younger (however it's legal where i'm from, don't fret) and still a teenager.

Black Sheep

Until such time as she fully understands that she was raised in an apocalyptic doomsday cult with a history of prophetic failure and nothing to offer her, and you, and her children, of any value, she is damaged goods and is not the kind of person you would choose to have raising your children if you were fully informed about her church's doctrines, rules, nature, grip and history.

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I was 36 when I started posting here. This weekend I celebrated my 50th birthday!

by nicolaou in

and i mean celebrated!

it was a cracking barbecue party for around 40 good friends and neighbours as well as my 'never jw' cousins and one of my brothers and his family.. .

drank a bit too much, embarrassed my kids with some 'dad dancing' and laughed until 2 in the morning.

Black Sheep

Happy bithday Nic.

Dad dancing is cool. There should be more of it.

Cheers

Chris

38

New Zealand.

by karter in

jw
friends

who lives here?.

whos been here?.

who wants to come here?.

Black Sheep

Where is New Zealand?

20

Are we living in the best time in human history, and on the edge at the same time?

by Fernando in

jw
friends

personally i believe we are.. your thoughts?.

how will it turn out?.

what can/should we do?.

Black Sheep

My grandparents worried about the lives their grandchildren would have. Were they right to worry?

3

1914 real generation vs Watchtower "this generation".

by tenene in

i know it has been discussed a number of times on this forum, but this issue is so complicated and almost impossible to understand.

what is a generation in real terms?

watchtower spin doctors managed to buy this organization another 100 years of existence/business just by playing around with this word..

Black Sheep

Make your JW bash every form of dishonesty that they are likely to need to use to weasel their way out of confronting your question, then ask it and use their own high standards to keep them honest.

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Advice Needed

by HeyThere in

so my situation is changing and i am trying to figure out the best way for me to handle this.

i am an unbaptized publisher married to a dub who was inactive when we met and when we married and during the course of our marriage, and just went back active a year and a half ago.

he is a full believing dub.

Black Sheep

Ask as many questions as you want, but don't offer your own opinions. Make them do the talking and shut up except to keep them honest and to give them guilt trips if they try bullying, lying, changing the subject, or any other trickery to avoid answering your questions.

Remember at all times, that you must portray yourself as asking because you want to understand the Truth, not because you are Satan's minion trying to steal their salvation away from them.

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Old WT Publications I have

by William Penwell in

i have a number of older wt publications.

due to downsizing, i would like to get rid of them.

if some of are of value and have not being scanned, i could scan them for all to share.

Black Sheep

Yes, they have. They are probably all able to be found as PDFs somewhere on the net. Search the forum first. Start a thread asking for a copy, with the name and date of a publication, and there is a good chance someone will upload a copy.