Clyde was 21 when he was appointed Assistant Congregation Servant (second in command in the congregation) - that was before the current elder arrangement. He believed strongly that he should only use the Bible when making decisions--this didn't set too well with the other servants.
Bonnie_Clyde
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Elders in their 20's?
by Princess Daisy Boo inmy little sister called me just now.
exciting news - stop the presses - her husband has been made an elder.
she is 27 and he is 26... is that not a little young to be an elder?
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The Sick And Aged: Watchtower Approves of "Corban"
by metatron inwhy does the watchtower society approve of 'corban' in relation to sick or aged relatives or spiritual brothers and sisters?.
example: the april 15 watchtower article "isolated but not forgotten" talks about the need to visit "our dear" brothers and sisters in .
nursing homes.
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Bonnie_Clyde
The April 15 Watchtower article "Isolated but not Forgotten" talks about the need to visit "our dear" brothers and sisters in nursing homes. This is a good and noble cause. However, we all know that elders and publishers can get out of any responsibilityfor these suffering people by simply saying "Well, I can't because I have to get my field service time in". Pioneers can do much the same. Too bad about Dad's Alzheimers. We can't help because of our "ministry". And why does the Watchtower keep printing these empty reminders? Because it makes them look righteous - while the problem goes on and on.
This is the very thing that got me out of the organization. My parents were considered pillars in the congregation. My father was instrumental in getting their local Kingdom Hall built. Because he was retired, he was always being called on to help with maintaining the building. Then my mother's health began to deteriorate and she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's which steadily got worse. It was a very very difficult time. My father and I almost single-handedly took care of her needs for more than seven years during which time she suffered two broken legs. Almost all their "friends" disappeared during this time. I remember countless times asking different witnesses if they would be so kind to visit my parents. I would often get something like, "Well I would, but I am pioneering next month." Or they would say they would stop in, but rarely did. In fact, there was one 6-month period when absolutely no one, including relatives, came by even though my parents lived less than a mile from the KH. On at least two occasions we saw a carload of witnesses go down their road, stop at the neightbors homes but ignore my parent's home.
I think the catalyst for me was when my father told me that his book study conductor was asking about service arrangements, and my father raised his hand and said, "I'd be a special pioneer two times over if I could count the time taking care of my wife." I asked my father, How many people volunteered to come to your house to watch her so YOU could go in service?" He said, "None."
I became acutely aware that, even thought the WT would occasionally print a few words encouraging the publishers to give attention to the needs of the elderly, it was quickly forgotten. The only thing that was really important was field service.
After my mother's death, some of my relatives went to my father to let him no that I was no longer attending meetings or reporting field service. (I was too worn out working full time and spending most of the rest of my time at their house). Incredibly, my father turned on me, and I gave most of his estate to my daughter because she was still a faithful witness.
I'm still numb....
Bonnie
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Missing The Good Old Days!
by Outaservice inlets see now......... .
monday night: prepare for the tuesday night book study i will conduct.
also, have the family monday night watchtower study preparation.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Putting up with JW husband who never lifts a finger to help do any of that above stuff.
I used to get upset with Clyde for not helping. Later I found out that he didn't even want to be at the meetings and it was his way of protest.
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May 15 Kool-Aid Study Titles
by WTWizard inhow should we treat others?mp3 keep on doing goodmp3 deliverance by god's kingdom is at hand!mp3 while you are young, choose to serve jehovahmp3 make spiritual progress by following paul's examplemp3 pursue "holiness in gods fear" .
as i am not interested in downloading audio files that will permanently be on my computer, i would like to see a pdf file scan of the whole magazine in its entirity.
notice that the study articles are available as mp3 files, which does little good if one wants to look at it at their own pace and tear the material apart.. notice the theme: doing good.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I'll pm Fokyc. He has downloaded all the Kool-Aid editions in pdf and they look great! Hopefully he can get this to us soon.
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Losch reveals newer new light at Australia Zone Visit
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay everybody, grab your barf bag because i just got a steaming shovel full of craptastic notes from gerrit's zone visit to the land down under !!.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read at your own risk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~puke.
zone overseer was losch and his side kick was a big black guy, quite a scolar, cant remember his name though.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Even selling their belongings and moving somewhere would be too much for most of them, and the older members would vividly remember pre-1975 if that was to happen.
Most of my witness relatives would do anything they are told to do. They called it "strict obedience." I know a lot of old timers (including relatives) who have forgotten all about the 1975 fiasco--in fact, they deny it was ever happened and refuse to look at any evidence otherwise.
Bonnie
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Losch reveals newer new light at Australia Zone Visit
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay everybody, grab your barf bag because i just got a steaming shovel full of craptastic notes from gerrit's zone visit to the land down under !!.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read at your own risk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~puke.
zone overseer was losch and his side kick was a big black guy, quite a scolar, cant remember his name though.
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Bonnie_Clyde
The Watchtower needs to sell all their property in New York to avoid a potential tsunami. Then take their profits and diversify their money into tax-friendly countries such as Switzerland where they can keep secret accounts--to hide themselves from more lawsuits.
Clyde
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Losch reveals newer new light at Australia Zone Visit
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay everybody, grab your barf bag because i just got a steaming shovel full of craptastic notes from gerrit's zone visit to the land down under !!.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read at your own risk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~puke.
zone overseer was losch and his side kick was a big black guy, quite a scolar, cant remember his name though.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Watch for the Hale-Bopp comet--or, in our case, the Hail Freddie Franz comet as he is guiding us from heaven through the modified and improved Watchtower. By the way, keep an eye out for a sale on Kool Aid at Wal-Mart--which "by extension" would be a sign of "soon."
Clyde
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HOW A WIFE'S WORKING CAN DRIVE MEN TO SUICIDE!!
by Mary inok all you wives that work outside the home-----you need to quit asap.
because according to the witchtower, it can and has driven hubby's to suicide: .
*** w61 6/1 p. 326 your time or your money?
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Bonnie_Clyde
A wife's working can even drive a man to murder. That happened in our state last year. He was a stay-at-home dad and jealous of his wife's success. He was also having an affair--plus they had an argument. Don't want to go into the lurid details but he just got convicted last week--something like 27-30 years--not long enough....
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Are JWs allowed to go to wedding of disfellowshiped child?
by freetosee insince i've been out for so long i would like to ask if there has been any change regarding the association with disfellowshiped.
can active jws go to the wedding of their df'd sons or daughters?
any policy change?.
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Bonnie_Clyde
Some friends of ours had the book study taken out of their home because they attended their DF'd daughter's wedding.
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Evil friends & relatives......
by lavendar inwhen you were a jw......did you really & truly believe all your non-jw relatives, friends & acquaintances were evil and under satan's influence.....as you were taught by the wts?
did you buy that ridicules teaching....or did you deep down realize it was bunk?.
lavendar.
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Bonnie_Clyde
I didn't believe my friends and relatives were evil, but I did believe that anyone who left the truth was evil. As a young teenager, I don't remember the word "apostate" -- I remember "Evil Slave." I found out that a couple who didn't live too far from us were "evil slave", and I almost shivered every time we drove past their house, though I never met them. Then the man was killed in a car accident and I thought good enough for him!