Bonnie_Clyde

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  My EX still has a hold on our son....

  by nomoreguilt in

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  a couple of weeks ago i had the opportunity to enjoy breakfast with my younger son, 30. he hasn't been to meetings in over 2 years and i was able to help him move in with his girlfriend,22, not a jw a month or so earlier.

  he'hasn't been df'd, as of yet for that , although i know that there are probaby those who have the opportunity to do him in.

  i really don't know yet whether he is happy in his new lfe, but i do know that he still holds the desire to some day go back.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Your son's girlfriend is very smart for looking ahead. Looks like the only thing you can do is sit back and wait. I hope she and your wife will become friends and can give her some insight on how to handle this.

  Bonnie
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  How many have relatives who are disfellowshipped?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. beliefs

  clyde's friend (a ubm) called him totally disgusted after the co's visit.

  the co was talking about cooperating with the organization when a relative is disfellowshipped.

  then he asked for a show of hands of those who had disfellowshipped relatives.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Clyde's friend (a UBM) called him totally disgusted after the CO's visit. The CO was talking about cooperating with the organization when a relative is disfellowshipped. Then he asked for a show of hands of those who had disfellowshipped relatives. Well this man and his wife have two children who are disfellowshipped--how do you suppose that made him feel? About half the congregation raised their hands, and the CO commented that he himself has a disfellowshipped sister.

  How tacky was that? I suppose that having disfellowshipped relatives is a badge of honor....

  Bonnie
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  Did you ever do "rooming" work before a convention?

  by crazycate in

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  2. friends

  truthseeker's topic on the recommended lodging list, and some of the experiences people have had, made me remember the rooming work we did before a convention that was held in our city many years ago.

  we actually went door to door asking people if they had rooms they would be willing to let visiting witnesses stay in.

  i don't remember anyone telling me, "yes," but i know there were people who signed up rooms.

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  I did it one time - about 1970. Didn't get anybody - but it was an interesting experience. On two occasions during a convention I stayed in a home that had been secured from the rooming work. One of them was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, (1961) and the couple was real nice. They kept saying, "Bring you friends." We ended up with about 16 people staying there and only one bathroom to share. I guess the people really needed the money. It was something like $4.00 per night per person. The other time was in Ontario. I was with my parents (about 1960), and the people didn't even change the sheets on the bed before we came. My parents were pretty disgusted, but I viewed it as a test.
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  did the "the end will likely happen" in 1975 teaching start in 1966???

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is the book mentioned below where it all started?....released in 1966 at dc......i don't think there was any mention of 1975 before this because no 6000 years timeline ending in 1975 had come out before to my knowledge......anybody?

  ?............oompa *** w66 10/15 pp.

  628-629 rejoicing over gods sons of liberty spiritual feast *** .

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Ever since I started going to meetings in 1956 I remember them talking about the 6,000 years and we often saw the date of 4026 BCE as the date of Adam's creation. About 1958, doing the math, I asked the CO if this wouldn't mean that the end was coming in 1975. He replied, "No, because we don't know how long Adam was in the garden before Eve was created. In 1963 I saw this same reasoning in the "Scripture Inspired" book. I couldn't believe it when, in 1966, they stated that the 1,000 year reign would begin in 1975! I never did give much credence to1975 but was hooked on the "this generation will not pass away" reasoning, so I kept going--for 20+ more years.
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  Scripture quotes on items not made by JW's is considered bad

  by kitten whiskers in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have you ever noticed, or noticed it in yourself, that when you see a product with a scriptural quote, it was avoided, unless it was made by a jw company?

  i remember my mom coming over and on a bag of potato chips, they quoted a scripture on the back of a bag.

  she picked it up and said something to the effects of it being terrible.

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  At the last DC I ever attended, I was sitting outside the auditorium in the lobby with my father because he was in a wheelchair. There were several other people out there for various reasons. I looked out the window and saw some people walking with placards with the scripture, "Jesus is the way and the truth and the life."

  An attendant nearby muttered, Satan is working today.
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  Have you met Governing Body members?

  by BonaFide in

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  brother jaracz taught one day of my mts class, the very last day.

  when i was in bethel i met brother schroeder, brother sydlik, barr, barry.

  i said hi to brother franz once as a kid.. the new ones?

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  Albert Schroeder came for dinner at our house in about 1972. Afterwards, we all went for a walk. Whatever year it was, it was shortly after the WT explained that the Great Tribulation didn't start in 1914--it was yet ahead. I asked him what the scripture at Matt. 24:29 now meant, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light." He explained that the tribulation was the one back in 70 CE and that "immediately" could actually be a long time--like 19 centuries. I thought, even though a brain-washed JW, that it was a crazy explanation.
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  Elder stakeouts! Anyone done one / been a victim of one?

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  suppose the elders get an anonymous letter or phone call, or even a brave soul tells them that they no "brother so-and-so" is sleeping with "sister suzy q".

  or a believing jw has a "non-scriptural" divorce, and wants proof her ex is sleeping with someone else.

  the elders' manual says the "strong circumstantial evidence, such as evidence that the accused spent all night in the house of someone of the opposite sex who is not his wife or a family member" (paraphrase) can be used as evidence in a judicial case.. to get such "strong circumstantial eveidnce", elders have been known to "stake out" a house, spending all night in a car watching a house.. in all my time as an elder, i was never involved in one of these.

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  I know of one case where a divorced brother wanted to date a sister but the elders said he couldn't because he was still "scripturally" married due to his former wife (not a JW) not having remarried. The brother knew that she was sleeping around but couldn't prove it, so he and an elder staked her house out for a few nights until they saw a guy go in with her about 10 or 11pm and then leave the next morning. That was his proof. He was then considered "free to remarry" and was given permission to date the sister he liked.

  How pathetic is this story? A grown man couldn't go out on a date with a grown woman because some group of men said he couldn't. And then this grown man has to get someone to sit in front of his former wife's house to prove to them that guys visited her overnight.

  That story is very similar to my son's. His ex-wife admitted to her affair, he tape recorded it, played it to the elders, but they said that wasn't enough evidence--because she denied the affair when talking to the elders. So another elder talked my son into going with him to stake out her house. They got the evidence, but it turned out it wasn't necessary because the ex-wife finally confessed.

  Five years later our son finally found the right girl--she was also divorced. The elders wouldn't take her word that she was scripturally free ro remarry. They had to get a signed letter from her parents that they knew for a fact that her ex-husband was living with another woman.

  Thankfully, our son and daughter-in-law are out of the "truth" now, and these events helped them along.
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  The new book study arrangement...what it could mean

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've heard mentioned in a couple of places the admonition from the society about how the new void left by the discontinuing of the book study night should be filled with spiritual study or family worship instead of tv or just viewing it as a "night off".. this is the new spin on the society dropping that meeting night; "just because we gave you a night off from meetings doesn't mean you get to relax.

  you should use this time for family study.

  if you don't, then you invite satan into your home through your tv set or dvd player or cd player or internet connection.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I cannot see the financial benefit to the Society as a whole

  The congregation that Clyde used to attend was told by the regional building committee (about 3 years ago) that they needed to sell their hall and build a new one. They already had a beautiful, well-built well-landscaped hall, and a lot of people were perplexed. But, obediently they sold the hall, sent the funds to the Society and began a search for property to build the new hall. They found some property, but to this date there is no new Kingdom Hall. For three years they have had to travel to the next town, about 8 miles away for their meetings. I would say that the Society benefited quite nicely from this arrangement. And they can continue to benefit if more congregations start bunching up, forcing them to sell and donate the funds.
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  Books..."New Heavens and New Earth" / "Making your Family Life Happy"

  by hubert in

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  2. friends

  i drove to my favorite used book store this week, and found two "gems".. "new heavens and a new earth"...1953.. "making your family life happy"...1978.. without my reading the whole book(s) through, i am wondering if anyone knows of any good "nuggets" in either of these publications?

  i've noticed that some books will have one or two valuable statements in them, which the watchtower can't refute from their back-tracking.. anyone know of any "priceless" comments in these books?.

  thanks.. hubert.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Can you believe... "New Heavens and New Earth" was the first book I studied when I became a witless. I was only 11 years old, and my parents for some reason allowed my JW uncle to come to our house and study with my brother and I. My brother was going through some depression. I was terribly bored until we came to the chapter about creation and the 6,000 years. I suddenly became interested and started attending meetings with my uncle. That's where it all started. My father and mother eventually became witlesses too even though my mother objected for a long time. Wish she had put her foot down more...oh well, I guess I was just a rebellious child....
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  2008 Drama what a joke -cheesy fake characters communist propaganda!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "don't lose the love you had at first.

  " my mum sent me the dvd hoping it will "save" us.

  i love how there is always a super spiritual group and a villans group of brothers who end up ruining their lives.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Tell me about the book burning....