Bonnie_Clyde

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  Do You Think Sarah Palin Affects The Political Landscape?

  by minimus in

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  she's endorsed many candidates and almost half of them have won.

  she does have her supporters.

  most governors who suddenly resign are usually dead meat but she seems to be able to follow her own instincts and appears to be doing alright.. what do you think about sarah palin?

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  So what scares the liberal left? Sarah Palin. Why? When she believes in a candidate, she will compaign for them and usually gets them elected and doesn't worry about the money. She is a no-nonsense get-in-done girl which I find refreshing, but many people are more comfortable with politics as usual.

  Many people are tired of the smooth politicians who can read off a teleprompter when people ask questions that are rehearsed and give answers that are rehearsed. Granted off-the-cuff is is a very dangerous approach -- a thing that most professional politicians would avoid like the plague.

  Clyde
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  WT Spending

  by brotherdan in

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  i know this topic has been discussed here before, but i still cease to be amazed at the spending that the wt does to build it's facilities.

  this is an issue that jws like to brag about.

  today i received an email regarding the open house of the new casa grande az assembly hall.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't the reason churches are not taxed is because they are deemed charitable organizations. Maybe it would be a good thing if churches who don't consider themselves charitable (like the Watchtower) would be subject to taxation.
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  Help apriciated - Where in WT publications does it say, that even close family member should be shunned if DF/DA

  by Albert Einstein in

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  iam happily out for more than a year, my jw wife is basicly out as well - she didnt attend last 2 assemblies and didnt go to a meeting for about 4 months.... my wife s family is all in and very zealous.

  when visiting my mil, we avoid jw issues, but she usually pops up some topic.. last time she disagred, when i said, that wt encourages shunning within the family.

  (we live in central europe, and here really most jw do not shun df/da family members, general rule is just to avoid "spiritual discussions" with them).

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  "Keep Yourself in God's Love" page 208, 209, "In other cases, the disfellowshipped relative may be living outside the immediate family circle and home. Although there might be a need for limited contact on some rare occasion to care for a necessary family matter, any such contact should be kept to a minimum. Loyal Christian family members do not look for excuses to have dealings with a disfellowshipped relative not living at home. Rather, loyalty to Jehovah and his organization moves them to uphold the Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping."

  Bonnie
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  These words really made me mad!!!

  by Sour Grapes in

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  a couple of months ago the brother giving a talk was bragging about all of the good work.

  that the wtbts does thru their missionaries.

  he said that all that the christendom's missionaries.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  The book "Come Be My Follower" (page 186, para 11) tells us that Christendom has earned Jesus' anger for performing their charitable works.
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  These words really made me mad!!!

  by Sour Grapes in

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  a couple of months ago the brother giving a talk was bragging about all of the good work.

  that the wtbts does thru their missionaries.

  he said that all that the christendom's missionaries.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  The book "Come Be My Follower" (page 186, para 11) tells us that Christendom has earned Jesus' anger for performing their charitable works.
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  this weeks bookstudy

  by scottmedeiros in

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  forget witch paragraph books not with me.

  anyway lesson focussed on preaching and one paragraph mentioned matt were jesus sent mary to tell the brothers to go ahead and meet him in galilie.

  11 disciples and jesus commishioned them to go therfore and make disciples, u know the rest.

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  12 Jesus also taught his disciples to avoid unnecessary distractions. He said: “Do not embrace anybody in greeting along the road.” (Luke 10:4) Was Jesus telling them to be cool or aloof? Not at all. In Bible times, greetings often involved much more than a simple hello. Customary greetings included various formalities and lengthy conversation. One Bible scholar states: “Salutations among the Orientals did not consist, as among us, of a slight bow, or extension of the hand, but [were] performed by many embraces, and inclinations, and even prostrations of the body on the ground. All this required much time.”

  Also the Society likes to use 2 John 10, "If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him."

  Paragraph 12 is a gem. I'm going to keep this on file.
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  Me 1st post

  by shadowolf in

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  i am new here this is my first post but ive been looking at some of the topics here for 2 or 3 months.

  well i guess i should give yall a backround of myself.

  i am a teenager, so i cant tell my family(mostly jws) how i feel.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  "Welcome - I wish I had wiki and the internet when I was 16, I didn't find out until I was 42."

  And I was 56. I was a very indoctrinated teenager. Even got my parents involved much to my distress more recently.

  There is a lot of good advice on this board--especially going easy on your parents. Love them no matter what...but don't go back to the Borg once you're out.
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  ThirdWitness Wants To Destroy Captives of a Concept

  by t33ap80c in

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  i have had numerous conversations with thirdwitness.

  it seems that one of his goals in life is to protect the world from me and my "captives of a concept.".

  someone by the name "settingtherecordstraight" has posted many of thirdwitness comments on several webpages, including: .

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  I enjoyed your book too, Don. You wouldn't remember me, but 10+(?) years ago you responded to an email I sent before I was completely out of the organization. I remember you were in the process of writing your book.
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  As a Witness - What did you Notice in How Elders Got Appointed ?

  by flipper in

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  i found it amazing being raised in the witnesses to see exactly who got appointed sometimes as an elder.

  it seemed that the criteria in my opinion had more to do with getting 10 hours a month in field service, answering at meetings, carrying microphones as a ministerial servant, or handling the magazine or literature counter !

  in doing these " functions " and attending meetings on a regular basis - a man was thought to be considered " spiritually strong " and qualify to be an elder and serve on judicial committees judging people's personal problems.

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  "When it was decided to re-jig the whole arrangement and bring in an arrangement of elders who were "appointed" through holy spirit. For those original elder positions what that amounted to was all who were servants sitting in a big circle and going from on brother to the next deciding if any would/should be excluded for any reason from a list that would be sent (in our case to Toronto) of ones that were approved locally for appointment in bethel."

  Booby - that's exactly how Clyde described it when they changed to the elder arrangement (about 1972). Although he was in line to be almost the top dog, he decided right then that he didn't want to be an elder. He shocked everybody because at the time being appointed an elder was a coveted position. I remember being disappointed myself. Clyde did accept the position of MS for a few years before his fade.

  Bonnie
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  As a Witness - What did you Notice in How Elders Got Appointed ?

  by flipper in

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  i found it amazing being raised in the witnesses to see exactly who got appointed sometimes as an elder.

  it seemed that the criteria in my opinion had more to do with getting 10 hours a month in field service, answering at meetings, carrying microphones as a ministerial servant, or handling the magazine or literature counter !

  in doing these " functions " and attending meetings on a regular basis - a man was thought to be considered " spiritually strong " and qualify to be an elder and serve on judicial committees judging people's personal problems.

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  Bonnie_Clyde

  "When it was decided to re-jig the whole arrangement and bring in an arrangement of elders who were "appointed" through holy spirit. For those original elder positions what that amounted to was all who were servants sitting in a big circle and going from on brother to the next deciding if any would/should be excluded for any reason from a list that would be sent (in our case to Toronto) of ones that were approved locally for appointment in bethel."

  Booby - that's exactly how Clyde described it when they changed to the elder arrangement (about 1972). Although he was in line to be almost the top dog, he decided right then that he didn't want to be an elder. He shocked everybody because at the time being appointed an elder was a coveted position. I remember being disappointed myself. Clyde did accept the position of MS for a few years before his fade.

  Bonnie