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  BOE Letter: New Adjustments

  by pixel in

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  2. beliefs

  **this was predicted from some members here**.

  to all congregations .

  re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

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  AnnOMaly

  Ah. Fresh amendments for the Theocratese Newspeak dictionary. Lost track of what edition it is now - 607th? 1975th? 2035th?

  [LOL, somebody already picked up on the Orwellian similarity.]
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  Did JWN Discredit "JehovahIsJudgeUk" website?

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  they use poor reasoning, they wiggle around the question and ignore the fact the watchtower was affiliated with the united nations.

  this website fails to ignore the facts that we were not allowed to join the ymca even though we did not follow the charter rules, the watchtower agreed to follow the un charter and did so from 1992 to 2001 when the scandal was exposed.. .

  have any of you seen works to debunk their slanted arguments and dishonest play of words?.

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  AnnOMaly

  Jehovahs judgment Expose

  I'd not seen that before. Good resource. Thanks, Paul.

  (Re: billy - I think s/he must be a stray from the topix forum, perhaps bored, and thought s/he'd try stirring things up here.)
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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  AnnOMaly

  None of billy's posts make any sense. They're gibberish with lots of name-calling thrown in.

  Where did I put that pesticide?

  Ah, here it is.

  
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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  AnnOMaly

  If I might ask, what Gregorian years do you end up with when you factor in the solstices and the equinoxes to the 360 day-years, when subtracting 607 and 587 years from 2520?

  I don't understand the question. A solar year is slightly less than 365¼ days. The Gregorian calendar year is 365 days with a leap day added every 4 years to make up the lost ¼ day per year. The Jewish schematic year of 360+4 days is short a day from the Gregorian calendar year. However, the WTS sees the 360 day year as a 'prophetic' year and doesn't take into account equinox and solstice (epagomenal) days. They just treat it as a straight 360 day year.

  Scripture Inspired, p. 282 pars. 22-23 Study Number 2—Time and the Holy Scriptures

  22 Prophetic “Year.” In Bible prophecy the word “year” is often used in a special sense as the equivalent of 12 months, each month having 30 days, for a total of 360 days. Note what one authority says in commenting on Ezekiel 4:5, 6: “We must suppose that Ezekiel knew a year of 360 days. This is neither a true solar year nor is it a lunar year. It is an ‘average’ year in which each month has 30 days.”*

  [* Biblical Calendars, 1961, by J. Van Goudoever, page 75.]

  23 A prophetic year is also called a “time,” and a study of Revelation 11:2, 3 and 12:6, 14 reveals how one “time” is reckoned as 360 days. In prophecy a year is occasionally also represented symbolically by a “day.”—Ezek. 4:5, 6.

  I couldn't find the other post Leolaia did, until now, where she goes into more detail - click HERE.

  As I say, it's all contrived anyway - the numerological hops, skips and jumps required.
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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  AnnOMaly

  [Hm. Either forum or Chrome acting weird.]
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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  AnnOMaly

  'Course not (to 1st question). It's all contrived anyway.
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  Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

  " in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

  of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

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  AnnOMaly

  Archaeologists agree with either 587 BCE or 586 BCE as the fall of Jerusalem (the former date being the more accurate one).

  The 607 date (was formerly 606) came from the misunderstanding that the 70 years was supposed to be the period of the land's 'desolation without inhabitant' from Zedekiah's dethronement and was counted back from Cyrus' edict in his 1st year, assumed to be the end of that 1st year in early 537 BCE (was formerly 536 BCE).

  The Pyramid was thought to corroborate the 1914 date, but was not the foundation of it. The Bible was said to be the basis of the 1914 date.

  A 360 day year is not a lunar year (a lunar year is 354 days but needed an extra 29 or 30 day month every 2 or 3 years to sync with the seasons). The 360 day year was a schematic year of 12x30 days. To that had to be added the 2 equinoxes and solstices to keep it more in line with the solar year - more info HERE. However, the WTS just made 360 days (the imaginary 'prophetic' year) into 360 solar (365 day) years x 7 = 2520 solar years.
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  Girls can't do maths

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a story from my days as the accounts servant (not verbatim).

  me: hello, [brother] here's your copy of the money slip for this meeting, i just finished the count.. cong.

  secretary: thanks... who counter signed that there?.

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  AnnOMaly

  I used to help my husband count the congo money and regularly went to the bank with it all by myself! I still type out the WT schedule for one of the brothers who can't use a computer well. Girls can do math, be trusted not to use congregation funds to buy shoes instead of taking them to the bank, and can also type even though they've been inactive non-attenders for a long time.

  Girls are also great at scanning confidential elders textbooks and leaking them onto the internet before their official release, along with the BOE letter saying girls can't touch, look at or be within 50 paces of the elders book. (Slight exaggeration. How is YKnot nowadays, I wonder?)
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  Did JWN Discredit "JehovahIsJudgeUk" website?

  by RottenRiley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  they use poor reasoning, they wiggle around the question and ignore the fact the watchtower was affiliated with the united nations.

  this website fails to ignore the facts that we were not allowed to join the ymca even though we did not follow the charter rules, the watchtower agreed to follow the un charter and did so from 1992 to 2001 when the scandal was exposed.. .

  have any of you seen works to debunk their slanted arguments and dishonest play of words?.

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  AnnOMaly

  It's been done already. You mean, of course, the jehovahsjudgment site. Jeffro has debunked the 607 stuff the site did. The author Thirdwitness came on here years ago and his claims (607, UN) were deconstructed and refuted. More material HERE.
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  Now predicting increase of anointed?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.

  "are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".

  ....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.

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  AnnOMaly

  [Had a rethink.]