AnnOMaly

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  Armageddon is next week... Are YOU prepared?

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjppkvhy79k#t=82.

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  My Mom Hopes I Die Before The Great Tribulation Comes

  by minimus in

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  she told me that yesterday and i just chuckled.. .

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  Sooo she thinks the GT's a long way off? ... Or, she wishes you an early death perhaps within the next 6 months? ... Or ...?
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  Chile and the flag: It's true!! Undeniable evidence!!

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  joe, sorry, you'll have to eat some humble pie.. .

  thank you so much for the poster on extj.com who sent these pics!!

  can't have been better!!.

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  I also think the rationale is along the lines that there is a difference between displaying the flag and saluting or pledging allegiance to it.

  However, the mandate to display the flag is directly to do with celebrating a patriotic holiday. I wonder what would happen if a Kingdom Hall in the U.S. displayed the flag on July 4th? No 'act of worship' is involved - no saluting, no anthem-singing, no pledging allegiance - just displaying the flag on July 4th. It would be a huge scandal and HQ would jump on the KH BOE from a great height.
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  AD1914.com Coming Soon!!

  by ABibleStudent in

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  i visited the jehovah's witness report website today.

  i read the following article:.

  on october 1st 2014, barbara anderson will join in and participate in the launch of a new website ad1914.com.

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  Excellent!
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  1914 or 1934 ?

  by Chris Tann in

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  i have thoroughly researched the watchtower doctrine of 1914, and am convinced it is neither biblically or historically correct.

  but every now and then i wonder how ironic it is that world war 1 did start in that year, also pestilence and famine perused.

  maybe, just maybe the witnesses are correct.

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  ... Not to mention why there should be a dual fulfilment for Dan 4 in the first place.
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  1914 or 1934 ?

  by Chris Tann in

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  i have thoroughly researched the watchtower doctrine of 1914, and am convinced it is neither biblically or historically correct.

  but every now and then i wonder how ironic it is that world war 1 did start in that year, also pestilence and famine perused.

  maybe, just maybe the witnesses are correct.

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  AnnOMaly

  It starts when the kings in the line of David lose their sovereignty. That happened in 607 though Jerusalem fell in 587.

  Wondering, Ratt: why not count the loss of sovereignty with Jehoahaz's vassalage to Egypt in 609?

  Also, how did Jehoiakim become vassal to Babylon 2 years before Babylon invaded Palestine, where King Nabo. and Prince Neb. were busy that year subduing the peoples of the Urartu and Zagros(?) mountains, hundreds of miles to the north and east?

  Thanks for the correction Ann O Mally. My bad.

  Easy done, Chris. Been caught out myself
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  Why do they want or think they need to own a telecoms company?

  It's a recently set up telecoms company of no stock value owned by a prominent 'brother' that the WTS can use to cheaply install a high capacity dark-fiber communications system in its shiny, new compounds. Seeing as Latchman was the sole shareholder, if anything happened to him, the company may have ended up in disarray or collapsing which would jeopardize the installation and running of the service (see p. 5 of the Petition). So the WTS wanted to buy him out and take over the company to ensure future stability. That's what I take from it, anyway.
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  Interesting. It's a company that was only registered in 2011 and held stock of "no market value."

  They were wanting to transfer all the stock owned by the CEO, Prof. Haniph A. Latchman, to them.

  There is already a JWN thread on Bro. Latchman - http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/222547/1/You-can-be-a-Professor-at-a-University-but-no-higher-Ed-for-Jdubs-WTH
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  1914 or 1934 ?

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
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  i have thoroughly researched the watchtower doctrine of 1914, and am convinced it is neither biblically or historically correct.

  but every now and then i wonder how ironic it is that world war 1 did start in that year, also pestilence and famine perused.

  maybe, just maybe the witnesses are correct.

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  AnnOMaly

  The point Iam making is that the year 1933 and 34 is just as significant, if not more,as 1914. Especially if Witnesses consider that it was in World War 2 when Jehovah's Witnesses were extremely persecuted in Nazi camps.

  The 1934 year has been proposed before - even going way, way back to Rutherford's day*.

  If the new starting point was 587 BCE and the 7 times/2520 years were kept intact, it has to be 1934. If 586 BCE etc. (remember, 586 is the year after 587 in BCE years and there is no year 0†), it would be 1935.

  All the JW prophetic interpretations tied to 1914 cannot be transposed onto those years, most significantly those to do with God's choosing of the Org. to be His special people - 'judgment of the house of God,' the killing and revival of the 'two witnesses,' appointment of the 'slave,' 'Babylonish captivity' in Atlanta State Penitentiary, spiritual cleansing, 'wheat and weeds,' etc., etc.

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  * Watchtower 1922, May 1, 'The Gentile Times,' p. 133.

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  † 587 BCE to 1 BCE = 586

  1 CE to 1935 CE = 1934

  586 + 1934 = 2520 years

  586 BCE to 1 BCE = 585

  1 CE to 1936 = 1935

  585 + 1935 = 2520 years
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  Blown away-- where to go from here

  by All for show in

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  i stumbled upon this website a few weeks ago due to the jw.org ridiculousness, since then i haven't been able to pull myself away.

  the thoughts, feelings, and concerns i have had the past few years aren't just mine.

  it's global.

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  AnnOMaly

  WELCOME All for show. A 3rd-generationer here so I sympathize. I also grew up learning not to trust elders (never told them anything) and thought our problem congregation was one of only a handful. It took reading Crisis of Conscience to realize the same kinds of problems that plagued our congo were systemic and stemmed from the top of the hierarchy. Much of what you describe as getting to you also gets to hubby and I.

  Good for you and your family in bucking the trend and getting degrees - advanced ones at that! My husband also caught a lot of flak for going to College. After many, many years wobbling on the JW tightrope for the sake of family (once we'd woken up), we finally quit early 2013. Among other factors, we were not going to let our children be affected by the anti-higher ed. propaganda any more.

  Your head will be spinning, heart racing and emotions doing somersaults for a while. Deep breaths and try to take it slow. You don't need to figure everything out all at once.