Posts by eisenstein

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been away from organization for a while now, yet?.

by intellecta in

i found this site accidently i guess.

i have been away from the truth for a while now...6 years... yet it always permeates my mind somehow and i fear the events happening in the world, and wonder.... i guess my problem was that i hated going out door to door as a child.. somehow i hated invading other people's privacy and felt wrong somehow, or embarrased, or just plain hated it period.

i think that is the biggest thing that keeps me away from ever returning.. somehow i, in my small mind cannot understand why small children should do such a thing until they are old enough to at least have a say in it.. like an opinion??

eisenstein

Hi Intellecta!

Welcome! I am fairly new to this website and have met some very nice folks who feel some of the same things you feel. I actually just posted something along the same line of thought. (Great minds think alike).

I am finally beginning to realize what the scripture means that says that God doesn't dwell in man made temples. This holds true for the witnesses also. Don't be afraid when you watch the news, I know it is hard, but if you have peace in your heart and feel the way you do when you are seeing such bad things happening around the world, that in itself shows you are concerned for your fellowman. I don't know what the near future holds, but I know a God of love would not and will not destroy innocent people, especially those who are victims of the "society" in which we live. If you don't feel like taking your children to the kh then go with that feeling, there must be a good reason, I know you love your children and want the best for them. I for one would feel very skeptical of taking my children (if I had any) to a place where this abuse is going on.

So, please don't worry and know that things will work out for the better in the end. I hope this is helpful, I have a tendancy to ramble on. That's why I don't post too often. LOL

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No longer filling my spiritual needs...

by eisenstein in

i feel very sad today.

i see my old jw friends almost every day on my way to the subway, they are street witnessing.

i've talked to a couple of them about my doubts, etc.

eisenstein

Hello everyone,

I feel very sad today. I see my old JW friends almost every day on my way to the subway, they are street witnessing. I've talked to a couple of them about my doubts, etc. They have encouraged me to "come back" to the hall, especially now, that I have been laid off.

Most of you know by now if you've read my profile that I am currently on private reproof (well it's no longer private now, to you folks, I guess). I had been given my commenting priveleges back at my old cong. but, still not allowed to give talks or demos, etc. If you notice, it has been quite a while since I was put on PR: 1996. I wonder why it has taken me so long to get back? These doubts just didn't happen overnight. I haven't been to a KH for over a year now, except for the Memorial.

One brother invited me to come to the meeting tonight...to start back. And well, I am just not feeling it. I do still have a spiritual need, but I can't even skim through a WT or A without feeling sad or angry. The brother made a comment that I shouldn't feel bad about coming back now that I am laid off or that I shouldn't worry if some of the bros. & sis. might think "Oh, now she needs us because she's laid off, or "she shouldn't have put her job attendance before meeting attendance" (I worked a second shift).

Tonight is our MS and SM.

I was wondering how any of you may feel and how you are filling your spiritual needs, if you have any? This website has given me a lot to think about and you all have confirmed a lot of my feelings.

Thank You, for the insight You have given me!

eisenstein

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Anyone ever led on by a member of opposite sex?

by chachasmum in

jw
friends

it happened to me before i was ever baptized, and continued on after i was baptized.

it ended when i confronted him and took it to the elders.

i didn't get anywhere with that so, i moved to a different congregation.

eisenstein

Yea, Prisca, you're right...they had been married a long time and had grown children together. That's why I thought it would be good to take it slow. Also, he was about 25 years older than me too. Although, I didn't have a problem with the age difference.

Anyway, looking back, I am better off.

eisenstein

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cute lil girl talking to her dad who died in 9-11

by VeniceIT in

jw
friends

wow this is a real tear jerker, but it's soo sweet.

i can't stop listening, ohhh man.

http://www.949zeta.com/audio/heaven.mp3.

eisenstein

Hi Shakita,

I think you have to download realplayer to hear the song, I had to.

Thanks for those lyrics, I love Faith Hill. Is this on her new CD?

eisenstein

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cute lil girl talking to her dad who died in 9-11

by VeniceIT in

jw
friends

wow this is a real tear jerker, but it's soo sweet.

i can't stop listening, ohhh man.

http://www.949zeta.com/audio/heaven.mp3.

eisenstein

beautiful song, Venice IT...

today is 11/9...

it is so hard to let it go, I just had to listen once more.

Heaven...I miss you too, dad...

eisenstein

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the Oral contract of WT baptism

by hillbilly in

jw
friends

in regards to recent develpoments found here: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=40212&page=1&site=3#552474

you may find the following useful if called upon in the upcoming "sweep" .

eisenstein

This is totally shocking to me.

I remember reading something about this on someone's personal exprerience. I also remember telling an elder in my congregation when I had become seriously ill that I didn't remember the questions I was asked at my baptism (chemical shock treatment I guess). Anyway, he replied that he didn't remember the questions asked at his baptism either. But after reading these two new questions being asked at all baptisms since 1985, I really don't understand it at all. And how everything has gone ascrew. Thank you, hillbilly for sharing this with us. I will keep this in mind if and when the elders come calling!!!

eisenstein

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Anyone ever led on by a member of opposite sex?

by chachasmum in

jw
friends

it happened to me before i was ever baptized, and continued on after i was baptized.

it ended when i confronted him and took it to the elders.

i didn't get anywhere with that so, i moved to a different congregation.

eisenstein

It happened to me once and that was the last time I let it happen.

He was the PO of my congregation. I was new to this congregation and was just trying to get established and concentrate on my spiritual interests, blah, blah, blah...

But one day, I had come to the meeting before the morning congregation had let out. I was at the back of the Kingdom Hall and he came up and whispered in my ear asking if it would be alright to call me some time. I said to him, I don't think this is the right time and place, we stepped outside to talk some more. I told him that I was obliged, but that I was trying to put kingdom interests first.

After my meeting that day, I asked a sister about him and that he had asked me for my number. She just said he is probably just wanting to give you a shepherding call some time, and she told me his wife had recently passed away. Well about a month passed and I went to a congregation picnic and he asked me if he could fix my plate for me. Well, by this time I had developed some interest in him, I thought he was one of the most loving elders I had ever met. But, I just said no thank you I will fix my plate. I would have loved for him to fix my plate, but I guess I was trying to take it slow.

The very next day at the kingdom hall, I saw him with a very young girl, who I thought was his neice or something, they were sitting together. After I got home I got a call from my close friend who told me that he had announced his engagement to her. I was shockedand cried like a baby. I called another elder to ask him about this. And he suggested that I call him directly. So I called him and asked him if it was really true and he said yes. I told him I thought you were showing some interest in me. He just said do you know what it means for a brother in his position to break an engagement. I sincerely asked him if he was happy, he said yes.

I don't hold anything against him, he now has at least two children that I know of, and I hope he is still happily married, I guess I didn't move fast enough for him.

eisensteinof the foolish heart class

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The Two Witness Rule is NOT THE ISSUE

by jst2laws in

the problem.

many here are supporters of the movement to expose the wt society's harmful policies that seem to shelter molesters and punish victims.

a common scenario is there are not two witnesses or a confession to the sin and the "loyal" elders have told the victim and their parents that 'there is nothing more we can do'.

eisenstein

Thanks, Brummie

I actually remembered it as I had logged off, and I think I asked the same question before either in the chat room on on another post.

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The Two Witness Rule is NOT THE ISSUE

by jst2laws in

the problem.

many here are supporters of the movement to expose the wt society's harmful policies that seem to shelter molesters and punish victims.

a common scenario is there are not two witnesses or a confession to the sin and the "loyal" elders have told the victim and their parents that 'there is nothing more we can do'.

eisenstein

jst2laws,

I was wondering what R&F means...I am new to this website and haven't heard that abbreviation use before.

Thank You for this post...the whole judicial system of the JWs is very wrong and I have been deeply affected by these imperfect men's decisions ever since I was a child, I have seen tremendous damage done not only to my family, but to others in the congregations I have attended. It is very sad how lives have been wrecked.

eisenstein

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The Two Witness Rule is NOT THE ISSUE

by jst2laws in

the problem.

many here are supporters of the movement to expose the wt society's harmful policies that seem to shelter molesters and punish victims.

a common scenario is there are not two witnesses or a confession to the sin and the "loyal" elders have told the victim and their parents that 'there is nothing more we can do'.

eisenstein

R&F?

i'm eisenstein...didn't say einstein.