I sometimes miss Jah ... but he is now looking like a dream ... I still would like to be abble to find out that God does exist (it would be so confortable) ... But nothing helps me in this matter.
Thanks to all of you
Corinne
why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!
since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.
to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).
I sometimes miss Jah ... but he is now looking like a dream ... I still would like to be abble to find out that God does exist (it would be so confortable) ... But nothing helps me in this matter.
Thanks to all of you
Corinne
we went out to eat with my daughter and husband tonight and on the way back i counted the churches on the 16 mile streach of road home.
there were 18 churches that were on this one road.
can you imagine the money that goes to pay the preachers and buy the buildings?
Sorry Andi,
I feel so bad about this (still too much hunger I guess) not easy for me to be kind ... But I'll try my best
Who are you ? ... I'd like to know you more ?
read you
Corinne
we went out to eat with my daughter and husband tonight and on the way back i counted the churches on the 16 mile streach of road home.
there were 18 churches that were on this one road.
can you imagine the money that goes to pay the preachers and buy the buildings?
this is not a battle I hope
here are the answers you asked for (and again sorry for my english) : Those statistics come from ESSIE (high college from here, they did it in 1999 to figure out how lucky they are)
My trouble with your point of view is that actually I feel like (monney is not the only trouble) with religion in general ...
Now you know that people are financing churchs where children get abused (don't tell me it's not true), where weak and faithull people are also abused ...And how many people died because of their religions (before, now and will tomorow ?), how many people suicided (weaks or kamikazes) or gets crazy (even became killers because of religions) so this is not only about 3 billion people who are taking risk everyday because of their religion ... It's not only about your our my neighborwood ... So now how many people do they help ?... give your statititics ... I'd like to know, I may feel better ...
It's not only about money ... Those who can say BINGO ! are using those who only take advantage to get psychological power on faithfull people (some GOUROU gets master degree in this concern)... And yes some priest/pastor/or whoever are good people of course ... the question is HOW MUCH and what's the results in regard of the troubles it brings to this world ...
Everybody got the right to give their monney to whoever they want ... I've made my choice in this concern (cause to me, it's not about wasting monney but helping this world to become worse, and I don't want to be involved in this !) We don't need a church to help people ... (an association is enough, don't you think ?)
we went out to eat with my daughter and husband tonight and on the way back i counted the churches on the 16 mile streach of road home.
there were 18 churches that were on this one road.
can you imagine the money that goes to pay the preachers and buy the buildings?
to billygoat :
If you can go to your church without fear to be threatened, tortured or killed, you have a better chance than 3 billion people.
So now, how many people do they help ... sorry but everything is relative ... it's about billion people here who are suffuring in they're body because of there religion !!!
'god, i have a problem' .
'what's the problem eve?
'i know you've created me and provided this beautiful garden and all these wonderful animals.
lollllllllllllllllllllllllll ... very funny ... and Simon's reply very kind ...
population on earth (figures in 1999).
if we compare the population to a hundred people in a little town ... this is how it would look like.. 57 asian .
21 europeans .
population on earth… (figures in 1999)
if we compare the population to a hundred people in a little town ... this is how it would look like.
57 Asian
21 Europeans
14 Américans (North and et South)
8 Africans
52 women
48 men
70 Non-white people
30 white people
70 non-christians
30 christians
89 heterosexuals
11 homosexuals
6 would have 59% of the world richness,
all of them would be from the U.S.A.
80 would live in a housing of bad quality
70 would be illiterate
50 would suffer from malnutrition
1 would be close to death
1 would be close to born
1 would have a college level
1 would have a computer (maybe 1,5 in 2003)
And now :
If you wake up this morning with more health than disease, you are luckier than the million people which will not see the next week.
If you never were in danger of a battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the anguish of torture, rage of the hunger, you are better than 500 million people.
If you can go to your church without fear to be threatened, tortured or killed, you have a better chance than 3 billion people.
If you have food in your refrigerator, clothes on you, a roof on your head and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of inhabitants on earth.
If you have money in your bank, in your wallet or in small box, you belonged to the 8% the most privileged world.
If your parents are still alive and always marry, you are really rare person.
... see how lucky a few are ? ... TERRIBLE WORLD
we went out to eat with my daughter and husband tonight and on the way back i counted the churches on the 16 mile streach of road home.
there were 18 churches that were on this one road.
can you imagine the money that goes to pay the preachers and buy the buildings?
well, I agree that religion can help some people to get out of trouble, some people even learned to read and write ... in some ways it can be helpfull with or without money (and that's the whole thing !) my or your house could be a church actually (it wouldn't change a thing) ... A church to bring more people in the same place ? ... why ? ... More they are, less they really know each other
religion brings people to the point that they don't care about that poor people (means those who are in big trouble in this world almost 80 % of more than 6 000 000 000 people actually) are living in this world thinking it is satan fault (or whatever) or that helping those people is God's job ! Some religion even give credit to persecute they're own beleivers (castes). This is the real INSENSITIVITY (understandable but so dammagable)
Ya to me this is a real waist of money ... A real God would have espected us to give all this money to those 80 % people who are and will still suffer because nobody really cares about them (but what shall we do ? ... building churchs and pray ... see now how helpless and insensitive it is ???) Cause if we don't react ... We are the next once : 80 % today maybe 90 % tomorrow ... Who will care about us ? RELIGIONISTE only because they've got an interest to do it ...
Oh well ... I've already cried so much on this ... and still
population on earth… (figures in 1999)if we compare the population to a hundred people in a little town ... this is how it would look like.
And now :
If you wake up this morning with more health than disease, you are luckier than the million people which will not see the next week.
If you never were in danger of a battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the anguish of torture, rage of the hunger, you are better than 500 million people.
If you can go to your church without fear to be threatened, tortured or killed, you have a better chance than 3 billion people.
If you have food in your refrigerator, clothes on you, a roof on your head and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of inhabitants on earth.
If you have money in your bank, in your wallet or in small box, you belonged to the 8% the most privileged world.
If your parents are still alive and always marry, you are really rare person.
TERRIBLE WORLD !
what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?
we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.
for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.
so much fun (it brings back memories)... and I totally agree with shotgun and purpleV
I've always have been an insensive rebell as they were saying ... was looking elders who were trying to give me some advice like "Yeah ... of course" not even listening to those who couldn't give the right example ... Once, one of them told me : maybe Jehovah wants you to be like that ... so that you'll stay in "the world" to preach to people who don't listening to JW's ... My mother also came to that conclusion once ... LOL
What is it all about damned ? When the brain is gone, nothing's left !
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what would life be like for everyone who lives there?.
frannie b
If I ruled the world … (but it’s not necessary … lol … but true it’s my project actually … not to rule the world … but this is one of a kind idea that I’m ready to share with you)
Everyone would have to be protected, assisted and counselled by two professionals in independent concurrence (a 3rd one if it’s necessary). Those who have been in charge would always remain responsible of they’re job …
Most of our troubles are related to individualism/egocentrism (and this is one way to get rid of the problem in using the cause of the problem : individualism by concurrence) People who wants more money, power, recognisance, just would have to prove that they are the best (you get what you deserve) … and instead or bothering or killing us because of they’re egoism, everybody could take advantage of it …
My project is much more complicated than that, but wouldn’t cost a penny actually it's an economical project in fact (it would be more economical at least I think 20 % off of many products and services costs and lots of new, present and old jobs could be created to answer the real needs) … to be clear on this everybody's don't dream or need to live 24h/24 in a palace nor driving a Porsh ... don't you think ?
But you know what? I still wonder If people are ready for it (people have been screwed so much) … People I’ve talked about told me : just do it ! but I feel quiet alone on managing this … I discover this web site while I was trying to get out of it a little bit ... (I’m looking for reliable partners – already got one from USA and one from CHINA, lots more needed but I need technicians for the begining). More we will be, and easier we can make it (all profession are needed ... I'll tell you why if you're interested). Maybe we can make it together … It would be interesting … EX JWs at least got a NEW solution ! … No obligation here … I’ll find a way to make with or without you, or forget about it (I might die before … that’s why I don’t care giving some hints, just hope that it won't be leaded by bad persons but I'm not scared in fact in this kind of system they wouldn’t last very long anyway - concurrence ! ) …
If somebody have the same idea ... get in touch with me (let's try to go futher on this with everyones ideas)
But if I would like to go more far than that
Every people might always have the choice between 2 or 3 citizenships … also concurrence … but I can’t make this one happen … LOL
Read you ...
in reading topics and chating with nice people ... i just feel like i want to know all of you .
i'm a 36 woman from paris, no friend (huh !
), no familly (anymore) but a great funny son .
sorry this last post was supposed to be a private one ... Wathever ... You've got it ...