ok, this is actually dave posting for gina.
her mom called her this morning (the day after we told her we were going to be df'd soon) and said she wants to see everything gina's done research on.
she wants to see ray franz's books, the whole shmeer.
I am really hoping it all goes well for you. I am a little nervous for you guys and cant wait to hear the outcome. I am always hopeful that my mom and dad will approch me with questions and wanting information. At least if they dont accept it right away, it might plant a little seed of doubt that will eat away at them over time.
MonkeyPrincess
saw an interesting show on tv a few weeks ago: the history of the tupperware firm.
amazing program.
anyway it struck me that i could have been watching a tv show on the history of the watchtower.
I guess the biggest difference between the WTS and and Tupperware is: One's an organisation full of salesmen and saleswomen selling a plastic product of no real worth to anyone but making mega-millions in the process, and the other one is Tupperware.
That is so funny!!!!
I know what you mean, i almost got sucked into selling those candles and doing parties, until i found out what it was all about. I was just on my way out of the bOrg at the time so i was not ready to commit to something else.
Goes to show the wts uses the same concepts as do all those other companies trying to make a buck.
MonkeyPrincess
if you guys are witness.
did any of you bother to find out if bethel approved this website????????.
if you have looked on some of these topics to choose from you would know that witness are neutral on topics on political debts.
At first i thought.. OH NO, NOT ANOTHER ONE!!!!!
But this is just getting funnier and funnier!!!! Thanks guys, i needed that too!!!
MonkeyPrincess
anybody's jw parents ever use that "don't spare the rod" song and dance as an excuse to beat the living shit out of you?
my parents used to relish in the whole physical punishment thing.
i guess the question i'm trying to get at is, do you think wts promotes and encourages physical violence in the home?
Yes, the Big wooden spoon, that was my mom. If we even moved an inch in our chair at the kingdumb hall, she would just show us the spoon as a warning. If we misbehaved, you better beleive we got it, and had the welts to prove it. My mother stopped using the hairbrush when she broke it on my sisters behind. Of course, my dad was the worst with the big thick leather belt. Of course if he couldnt find that, he would knock us over the head with his knuckles, or give us a good smack.
When i had my son, the few meetings i took him to, my mother litterally bullied me into taking him to the bathroom to spank him. It was horrible, that was the last time i went the the meeting, it felt so wrong. I mean, he was only 1 at the time, who makes a 1 year old sit for 2 hours, its ridiculous!!!
I am so glad that is over, i am stopping that cycle with my son, now at 3 years old he gets time out's and that seems to work just fine.
MonkeyPrincess.
mum took this picture in the summer (she loves to photograph flowers, mushrooms and insects) and this one really shocked us - look at the head of the moth!
to us it looks like a little human head!
very strange.
Woah!! that is creepy. No doubt it looks like a human head on the body of a moth.
I've never seen anything like it.
MonkeyPrincess
as a kid i felt that jehovah would bring his big hand down from the sky and slap the hell out of the ground, and if i was under it then it would be real bad.
the fact is i found it hard to camp outside and enjoy looking at the night sky with all of its stars, fearing the big old hand was going to slap the area around me at that very moment and ruin trees shrubs the fish we had caught our tent my dads truck, and us oh man everthing else too.
shane
Oh my gosh, i havent thought about this for so long, and when i read your post it brought back some memories.
I had a very active imagination as a kid, i always thought when Armegeddon was gonna come that gods hand would reach down and unzip the earth that we knew, and a whole new clean world would appear under it and everyone that was suppose to survive would jump on, and everyone else would be left on the old world and just dropped away into the universe. I was probably around 6 when i came up with that. Its unbeleivable that a 6 year old would have thoughts like those instead of just a normal 6 year old.
Ok, i was a wacky kid!!! LOL
MonkeyPrincess
these differ from religious beliefs in that they are distorted and rigidly held beliefs which would be rejected by other of the same religious persuasion, though they have their initial origin in orthodox religious beliefs.
the patient may announce that he is the recipient of divine messages or revelations and that he is to save the world, perhaps describing himself as the new messiah.
the road to salvation may unfortunately be paved by rather odd practices.
'distorted and rigidly held beliefs'
Indeed!!!!!
Thanks for posting ballistic, i couldnt agree more.
MP
i posted here a couple of months ago when the site had a little different format.
there was an area for newbies with concerns and that's where i lurked.
i have been in the "truth" for about 30 years.
hi sista, welcome.
I think alot of us here have been in the same boat as you are, guilt is one of the worst weapons used against us.
you are not a bad person for asking questions or seeking knowledge. You are allowed to serve Jehovah or any
god you want to without belonging to an organisation. It has taken me a long time to realise that. We are not bad
people on this site, we are able to relate to eachother..thats all. The word apostate is merley a label. You are
very strong and you need to do what is right for you, not anyone else. Good luck in your move and your fade,
i know how difficult it is to have your family still in. ((((hugs))))
i use to think that going door to door had its hazardous moments, but the time i was bitten by a dog wow.
that was scary.
i still can't figure out why the mutt bit me as i love animals.
I've been chased, barked at and even jumped on.. but never bit. All while out on service of course.
My dad has ben bit before, and i remember he hit the dog with his breifcase, and the owner came out
with a shot gun.. strangly enough he took the magazines. LOL
MP
someone posted a bid greater than mine in the last five seconds which prevented me from making a counter bid.
if you are wondering, that is the book where the wts talks about how much they loved the nazis and what their goals were.. hitler got everything out of the wts that he wanted and then turned on them... hence all of the concentration camp stories you hear jehover witnesses crying about.. why would hitler do this?
i don't know... ask stalin... hitler did it to him and russia too!.
Dont you hate it when that happens! I sure would like to see that book.
I wonder if the WTBTS are the one's that bid higher at the last minute to keep it out of the hands
of people like us. LOL
Better luck next time!
MP
