Posts by GoUnion

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Opposing opinions

by GoUnion in

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any current or ex jw knows there is a lot of counsel against association with nice people that do not share your faith.

i think this is very damaging for personal growth, we never really can challenge our convictions, we become stunted in ability to reason and make personal decisions.

this is also why the organization has fought against "higher education" so hard.

any current or ex jw knows there is a lot of counsel against association with nice people that do not share your faith. I think this is very damaging for personal growth, we never really can challenge our convictions, we become stunted in ability to reason and make personal decisions. this is also why the organization has fought against "higher education" so hard.

Im im not a college graduate myself but for most of my life I have always been friends with some staunch athiests and we have had some heated debates, but we have always remained close friends and I know we respect each other. Since I have left the organization I think I am just now starting to see how isolated and controlled witnesses are.

any thoughts on friends that you disagree with religiously, socially, politically?

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GET A CLOSE INSIGHT INTO HOW RUTHERFORD made excuses in Court

by Terry in

we are all familiar with the flip-flop on the generation teaching which, in effect, demonstrates watchtower interpretations do not stand the test of time and must be changed.

the words of god suddenly become the opinions of men, time after time.. the teachings and interpretations of pastor c.t.

russell changed often during his lifetime in regards to dates and pyramid speculations.. next, with judge rutherford, the wildest exaggerations of his imagination were proclaimed to be god's own mind revealed to man in the pages of his many books!.

GoUnion

Very interesting I would like to listen to those hearings someday.

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WITNESSES FEAR THE TRUTH - WIKIPEDIA

by The Searcher in

every time i submit the following update to wikipeda - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/kingdom_hall#funding - some poor deluded individual/s keeps deleting.. i wonder who it could be?????????.

"as of may 2014, the funding of kingdom hall construction around the world has changed, as per the instructions of the governing body's letter to all congregations, downloadable from this link - http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/279067/1/2014-03-29-boe-confidentials-pdf-adjustment-to-financing-kingdom-hall-and-assembly-hall-construction-worldwide.

the previous form of funding was facilitated by entirely by voluntary donations.

GoUnion

What info were JWs trying to cover up that got you thinking Oubliette?

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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

by OneEyedJoe in

first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

GoUnion

What amazes me joe is how similar your exact situation is to so many here in recent months, myself included. my suggestion would be to take it slow if you can stomach a few meetings here and there for your wife's sake. I made up my mind to completely stop and it has made my marriage harder then it would have been to slowly slow down. My problem was that I could not take the indoctrination classes anymore, there was no benefit to be at the meetings learning a group of men's ideas with no opportunity to have a meaningful discussion.

im sure you have learned already that there are many that have a deep seated hatred for the WT, please remember that many have lost parents, children, relatives, best friends, and an entire network of friends over the course of a lifetime, all in an instant. the feelings of abandonment and isolation are powerful and are damaging, but this is the desired effect of the policy, from the policy makers. Please be patient wih the wide variety of opinions on this board. The open discussion on this board can keep you from feeling alone, there are many in your situation and many that want to help. Good luck in all your endeavors.

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What Are The Best Threads Here On JWN?

by minimus in

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are there any type of threads that you especially enjoy?

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are there any specific threads or posters that you look out for?.

GoUnion

I loved the topic of the KISS method for counting 587, It's simple and really shows the stretch of the current 1914 understanding. That post has really changed my life.

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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

by pixel in

hello, you read it here first!.

governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

to all congregations.

GoUnion

Hopefully the C.O.s will follow the fasting aspect of the scripture most of them could use it.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-20-2014 WT Study (MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB)

by blondie in

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(john 1:36; 3:28, 29; rev.

(rev.

GoUnion

How does revelation refer to an earthly courtyard of a spiritual temple? This article seems to be stretching.

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Life after meetings

by GoUnion in

what are the positives in your life since leaving jws?

mine would be a healthier lifestyle mentally and physically.

i'm free to do what i want and can make my own decisions, is this good for me will it help me or could it hurt someone else?

GoUnion

You are exactly right Coffee Girl! I attended a funeral a few weeks ago and all the JWs just looked run down, tired, and out of shape. The demands on their time is not reall fair considering how hard it is just to take care of yourself. I'm hoping my wife will slowly see the happier changes in my life and recognize it's just from the free time I have now.

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Life after meetings

by GoUnion in

what are the positives in your life since leaving jws?

mine would be a healthier lifestyle mentally and physically.

i'm free to do what i want and can make my own decisions, is this good for me will it help me or could it hurt someone else?

GoUnion

what are the positives in your life since leaving JWs? Mine would be a healthier lifestyle mentally and physically. I'm free to do what I want and can make my own decisions, is this good for me will it help me or could it hurt someone else? I like making choices based on that, not could it stumble some self-righteous prick. the free time I have now to help around the house or go to the gym is amazing as well, I just feel more relaxed and calmer.

the negative aspect would be strained relationships with my parents, wife, and friends. My parents will have nothing to do with me even though I'm not dfed I am still amazed how quickly I was dropped. things are fine with my wife i just want to explain why I have quit going but she is not ready to deal withe all that yet. I have had zero contact with most of my friends once they heard about me and that sucks but I will not be drawn back in for conditional friendship.

what was nice is I have started reconnecting with my brother who refused to join growing up as a jw and now has little to do with my parents. I was stunned when he told me how he felt abandoned when he was 16 and has felt that way since and he is right. It just makes the craziness of the organization that much more real to me. It is sad when I really start looking around the organization all the broken families.

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Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder

by committeechairman in

i'm considering resigning as an elder.

i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.

and i'm completely exhausted.

GoUnion

I can see how you would want to stay an elder if you wanted some inside information to pass on maybe? Personall i couldn't do it, the demands on your time just to do the minimum can have an adverse effect on your health and time never mind the time spent doing elder stuff.

curious how you can sit on a jc and at the same time not believe in the doctrines.