Joe1234cd - I understand what you're saying. My mother told me that there was a man going to each convention in britain causing a scene. Our problem wasn't with the attendants stopping my fiance, it was the way they acted. When my fiance answered them and even pointed to where he was sitting that should of been the end of the conversation. There was no need to stop my fiance AGAIN and corner him with 3 other attendants, it just wasn't necessary. If they wanted to be extra cautious they could of asked him to escort him back to his seat and then when they saw that he was sitting down next to someone else they should of apologised and explained to him why they had to ask him so many damn questions. It's all about how you treat people. There's nothing wrong with being weary but they could of least had the dignity to act polite! It wasn't my fiance who thought that witnesses were different - he actually thought the complete opposite. It was me who thought they would treat him differently and that's what's made me think. If I was treated the same way as he was at a convention I would never go back to one!
nomorepain13
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Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be
by nomorepain13 in*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.
a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.
right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.
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Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be
by nomorepain13 in*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.
a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.
right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.
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Thank you everyone for replying. Im on jw facts reading about 1914. LisaRose I would love to hear your story if you could message me I would really appreciate it to further discuss my story as well.
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Finding out that jws are not what they make out to be
by nomorepain13 in*warning this is long* it all started on the last day of the "remain loyal to jehovah" convention.
a little background story, i've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if i had just went to meetings and did all the right things then i would have friends and not be in the mess that i was.
right after becoming an unbaptized publisher i met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though i'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the last day of the convention my fiance came with me as i was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention.
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*warning this is long* It all started on the last day of the "Remain loyal to jehovah" convention. A little background story, I've been raised as a jw, been in and out of the religon, never baptised but was made an unbaptized publisher about 3 years ago, always felt out of place in the congregation, blamed myself for this because if I had just went to meetings and did all the right things then I would have friends and not be in the mess that I was. Right after becoming an unbaptized publisher I met my now fiance, end up leaving my mother's house to live with him, elders haven't contacted me about my situation even though I'm sure they know as my step father is an elder...but anyway on the laSt day of the convention my fiance came with me as I was visiting my mother and had planned to go with her and her husband to the convention. Everything was going fine until the afternoon. My fiance was a bit disturbed at the video where the woman let her Co workers influence her on the situation with her husband. I was adamant that the witnesses were just trying to tell people about the dangers of how non witnesses can affect your way of thinking because they're unbelievers but he said that any grown adult would of not acted that way unless they were gullible. I pushed it away and just thought it was his wordly way of thinking. Then I saw how jw were acting towards him. My fiance has a distinctive look about him, lots of tattoos, shaved head, and is the most loving man I've ever met. The jws were giving him such disgusting looks as if he shouldn't be there,the type of looks that he gets all the time when he's coming to and fro from work from non jws. That really pissed me off and unsettled me to the point where i burst out crying...this happened at lunch break, my fiance needed to go to the bathroom as the convention was going to start so I asked him if he wanted me to wait for him and he said no I should go and sit back down cuz he knew I wanted to listen(I didnt want to at this point because I could only think about how the jws were treating him but I just went back to sit down anyway) I go sit down and then start to get a little bit worried as my fiance is taking a bit of while but I just say to myself that Im just being paranoid. My fiance finally returns and says to me in a jokey way "just been asked 21 questons as to why I'm here" I thought he was joking but when I saw he was being serious my mouth fell wide open and I was in such an amount of shock. Turns out before my fiance could even walk into the hall an attendant ask him does he know what is happening at this hall..my fiance said yes and the attendant asked him if he has a seat and he said yes, as he thought the conversation was finished he started to walk off but the attendant put his hand in front of my fiance and then 3 more attendants surrounded him and he had to explain himself all over again! Oh yeah and in the morning we were walking around before the program started and an attendant rudely said to him "are you ok" while looking at him suspiciously. So much for a loving, king organizat ion! After the convention I told my fiance to show me who the attendant is so that I can have some "kind" words with him about his behaviour, my fiance showed me who the guy was but told me to just leave it so I did. That night I returned to this website and looked through all the child abuse cases, I watched the royal commision video and was in a state of shock/disbelief, I felt sick to my stomach. I realised that my fiance was right. If someone at my work place had told me to react to my fiance in way that the women did in the convention video, no matter how close to that person I was if I didn't agree with what they said I would hold my stance on my opinion and not let them influence me because I am responsible for my own BEHAVIOUR and I'm the only person who can chose who I let into my mind, no one else. I saw a picture of a child that is in the same congregation as my mother in her bookcase and remembered that she told me that the sister of that child gave my mum that picture and my mum and that sister aren't even close...I kept on thinking what if my step father was a pedo?? He could be doing goodness knows what to himself over a picture of that child :/ The sister just kindly gave a sister a picture of her child and didn't even think to herself oh maybe this is a bit weird as I don't know her that well. ..jws are way too trusting with people who they hardly know, I'm not surprised that there are so many cases of child abuse. Even writing this now I feel sick. I still believe in jehovah but I seriously think that there are huge mistakes in that religion that need to be changed but I know it will never happen...i am trying to learn all I can about the religion and it's false teachings so if anyone would like to tell me anything then please message me as long as you have evidence. I really do need extra support as this has affected me in so many ways, my fiance is trying to help but can only do so much and i thinj someone who is in a similar situstion would be a great help to me, dont care if your fading or disfellowshiped or still a jw...Any stories similar to mine would be kindly appreciated also. Thank you for taking the time out to read my brief story.
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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Thank you everyone for your comments some of you have given really practical advice. I really do appreciate it!! To feel like this and not being able to talk about it for so long has made me feel a lot better now that I have said how I feel.
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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Yes thedog1 the elder did really say that word for word. He made fornication the main purpose of the questions saying I might get lonely and I want to be loved, basically saying how I might fall into sexual immorality. I must admit I don't really like him he does speak about embarassing topics that don't need to be so deeply spoken about. I am trying to hide my identity so if I do say that I am a brother and then in another post I say that I am a sister this is because I am hiding my identity...but in this instance I will say I am a 20 year old girl, curvy, I would like to think that I am some what attractive, and this elder talks to me about a husband masturbating with a gay man!! I was so embarassed!! My friend who is no longer in the truth told me that the same elder said something similar to her he said "If you commit sexual immorality it is just like I'm there watching you, this is how it is with Jehovah"......
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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Guys I know this site is for ex jws but I have no one else to talk to...literally..I have found that the Yp ask book is no help when I want to really dealve into questions, I have a study but he is too busy with his new wife to take interest in me, I don't think I will ever fit in. Even after an assembly a year ago I went out with this sister from my old congregation and the young people were extremelly judgemental, I mean I can understand if I went to some any bar or club, but if this is Jehovahs organization then why are the people so judgemental? The brother who went through my unbaptized publisher questions tried to scare me saying how "people get df for sexual immorality" and even asking me questions like "What if a man who is married masturbates with a gay man? Is that fornication?" o.O I was literally baffled!! I was not going to go through with it but I thought it will get better in time you know? But it hasnt....
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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I have been going to meetings since I was a child, long story short only recently I've started taking the truth seriously, I am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher. Truth is I am so lonely in the congregation. The other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think I am going to "Stay" for long, I've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am I giving the wrong impression to people? Because they are acting differently towards me? The brother said that because I've been back and forth in the truth that people don't want to get there hopes up and re establish friendship bonds, which I guess I understand, it was my fault for being in and out of the truth.
I have no motivation to do anything. I wanted to serve Jehovah to my fullest, do everything I possibly could but elders held me back because they thought I would make a "mistake", I understand there decision but at the time I was SO zealous to go out on the ministry etc, I went to every meeting and socialized with brothers and sisters in the hall. I am still a young person under 21, I see people my age in the Truth going out having fun while I'm at home. What makes this even more difficult is that I've met a wonderful worldy girl, she has outstanding morals and is sweet. I would love to take things further with her and so does she but I can't. I don't want to drift because serving Jehovah is still in me but there is no way that I am going to miraculously make new friends. I was even discouraged at one point when an elder kept on asking my father to see if its "ok" to go through the questions with me and if I'm ready? Shouldnt they be able to see this by my actions in the kingdom hall?
Even my mother has said that I need a balance. I want to serve Jehovah and its literally been 3 months since I've been made an unbaptized pubisher, I had so much zeal and I don't want to blame the elders but they did take a lot of time waiting to make me and unbaptized publisher and when they did I wasnt as estatic as I was about the Truth. I want to leave because I am so depressed plus I am an only child, everyone else in the congregation has someone backing them up if its there blood brother or sister, or a marriage mate, and I'm just on my own, I don't want to sound like I want to leave to only go out and "Party" but when I see other young witnesses having fun I do get upset. I am planning on getting a job far away and moving out I think that is the best thing, but should I really talk to the elders about how I want to leave?