Hello Barbara,
Thanks for posting this info. This week-end was very busy.
I had some problems to post the original letter and I will try it on a separate post.
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Latest article to appear in Spain: Victims of Abuses of JW's Looking for Government Protection - English
by AndersonsInfo inlatest article to appear in spain - december 15, 2016.
ignasi jorro @ignasijorro.
las víctimas de abusos de los testigos de jehová piden amparo al gobierno.
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Fidel Castro and the WT
by Hecce ini am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
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Thanks Hecce :)
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Brooklyn Brothers Signworks... WUT?
by schnell inthe ad for this site came up here on jwn.
http://www.brooklynsignworks.com/jw/?gclid=cp7ppbzr_tacfy-baqodwocm1a.
i was not aware that these cart signs were being made and sold by essentially a private company or proprietorship.
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sp74bb
The same info was listened in Spain regarding a very big supply from a Chinese factory. It cannot be confirmed but....
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My real name (and a shameless self promotion)
by schnell inmy real name is benjamin heath, i live in southern oregon, usa, and you can always reach me on twitter @ben_heath_.
i have also rebooted my blog at benheathonline.com which is linked with my twitter.
i intend to write about experiences at work and in life, as well as whatever it is i'm reading about at the moment.. i'm a programmer by hobby, a truck driver by profession, an atheist by education and reasoning, and an ex-jw by choice.
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Bravo :) Be proud of what you have done !
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Fidel Castro and the WT
by Hecce ini am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
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Is there any official announcement that Cuba branch has been opened... ?
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Ex JWs in Spain contacted their Government to act against the JWs on child sexual abuse matters
by Susan Gaskin inthe letter below (translated from spanish) was just sent out yesterday to the minister of justice in spain by ex jws.
the collective group who did this have a website with this link: http://www.foroextj.com/.
email: [email protected] facebook: www.facebook.com/abusostj twitter: @abusostj.
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Thanks JHK for posting the entire letter :)
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To the brother who called in sick after Thanksgiving vacation
by schnell inthanks.. no really, thank you.. you decided to drive down to la with your wife and kids to be with extended family and eat a great big meal on thanksgiving.
that's awesome.
no, really, i hope you had great thanksgiving.. then you drove back up here, and that's a good day's drive so you were pretty tired.
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sp74bb
Well spoken !!!!
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El Periódico: Jehovah's Witnesses instructed to hide cases of child abuse.Jehovah's Witnesses instructed to hide cases of child abuse
by sp74bb insource: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/los-testigos-jehova-dieron-ordenes-para-ocultar-los-casos-abusos-menores-5660189#.
tuesday, november 29, 2016.
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Hello @Andersoninfo !
I know that one of my friends already arranged the translation for you.
If you need anything else please let me know.
Rgds, Miguel.
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El Periódico: Silence, at any cost (Idoya Noain, Correspondant in NYC)
by sp74bb insource: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/los-testigos-jehova-prefieren-pagar-multas-que-entregar-los-documentos-abusos-que-piden-los-jueces-5660360#.
tuesday, november 29, 2016 - 21:28 cet.
google translation:.
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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2016 - 21:28 CET
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Google Translation:
Silence, at any cost
Jehovah's Witnesses prefer to pay fines to hand over documents of abuses requested by US judges
Unlike Australia or the United Kingdom, the Government has not undertaken any
NICOLAS MAETERLINCK
A baptism ceremony of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
IDOYA NOAIN / NEW YORK
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2016 - 21:28 CET
In the United States, the country where he was born and is headquartered organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, and where there are more than 14,000 congregations and about 1.2 million faithful, the courts are open in at least 20 cases complaints Sexual abuse of minors. In all instances these are demands in the civil justice system, not the criminal. And they all have something else in common: the organization has refused to provide internal documents in which the guidelines on how to deal with this problem are collected.Even if the refusal involves paying harsh penalties imposed by judges.
In June a judge of San Diego forced the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to pay $ 4,000 for each day that the organization did not provide the documentation required in the application filed by Osbaldo Padron, a man who says he suffered sexual abuse at the hands of A local leader of the Witnesses in California at age 7.Among the documents requested it contained one of the letters sent in 1997 to reponsables of congregations around the world - published by this newspaper - ordering create an internal file with all cases of child abuse. Although a copy was provided during the process, it was so edited that it was useless. "Watchtower clearly has control over the documents," he wrote in imposing the daily fine the judge, who spoke of "obstinacy" in breaching the legal requirements.
"They are demonstrating a willingness to risk a lot of money to keep the secret documents", he notes in a telephone conversation Trey Bundy, a reporter for the Center for Investigative Journalismthat takes more than two years publishing information on cases of child abuse within The Jehovah's Witnesses. "The big issue is the secret file with names" related to cases of pedophilia, says the journalist. "Several times they have refused to give those documents and the question is: if the courts can not get them, how are they ever going to be made public?"
FILE WITH NAMES
The existence of a file with the names of the pederastas of the organization is not called into question. In fact, the April 1, 2014, during one of the trials in the US, a senior Witnesses, Richard Ashe, admitted that he had been collecting information and had electronically filed. But the problem, according to Bundy, is that there is no mechanism to force the Jehovah's Witnesses to make public this or any other document.
Part of the explanation for this impossibility is that trials so far have taken place in civil justice. If instead they were tried before the criminal justice and a prosecutor would like to see the documents the police would come into play, which would have the tools to force them to make them public.
INACTION OF THE GOVERNMENT
At the moment, neither the Department of Justice nor the FBI is investigating it. Justice has not answered the calls or the mails of Bundy for two years. According to the journalist, the authorities have not contacted any of the "hundreds of people" who handle cases of abuse or other lawyers or journalists who follow the issue. In Australia or the United Kingdom has been the Government who has taken a role active in research, but in the US, the country with the world Jehovah 's Witnesses, "the government is not doing anything" as Bundy. "All the directives leave here, so it must be investigated here," he reasoned.
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El Periódico: Jehovah's Witnesses instructed to hide cases of child abuse.Jehovah's Witnesses instructed to hide cases of child abuse
by sp74bb insource: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/los-testigos-jehova-dieron-ordenes-para-ocultar-los-casos-abusos-menores-5660189#.
tuesday, november 29, 2016.
google translation:.
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Source: http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/los-testigos-jehova-dieron-ordenes-para-ocultar-los-casos-abusos-menores-5660189#
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2016
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Google Translation:
Jehovah's Witnesses instructed to hide cases of child abuse
In 1997 they ordered to create a file of all the pederastas that has not yet come to light
In recent years they have moderated the discourse of concealment but continue to omit the directive to denounce
DANNY CAMINAL
Baptisms of members of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Palau Sant Jordi in 2006.
GUILLEM SÁNCHEZ / BARCELONA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2016 - 21:39 CET
The letters written by the Watchtower New York to branches of Jehovah's Witnesses around the world gather instructions that the dome of this religious organization , with more than 8 million followers in the world has for decades to avoid that cases of child sexual abuse in your community come to light.
The newspaper has recovered these missives which destroy - led ordered those responsible (the "elders") of each of the 1,400 Spanish congregations dependent Christians Jehovah 's Witnesses,the branch in Spain. Several extestigos endorse that were obeyed in their congregations and a world leader on this organization as the American Barbara Anderson has confirmed to this newspaper that its content is a simple translation into Castilian of the original writings from the United States.
"In the early 1990s knew they had a serious problem with pedophilia , " Anderson, who then worked as a researcher for the magazine 'Awake' ( 'Awake'), which is printed for all devotees explains. The most important thing in these missives is what "they say"emphasizes Anderson. Something as simple as "warn the police" does not appear in any of them. His refusal to report these crimes to the authorities is something that just berate them the government commission of Australia . A policy of concealment that fits complaints filed in Spain by Miguel Garcia or Israel Perez . Also with the story of Piris Noelia, a woman located by this newspaper, has reported that she was raped by eight years and then threatened into silence.
BURY THE MEMORIES
In the letter sent in 1992 to the leaders of each congregation "digging up the memories" of abuse victims with "a quiet life" it is advised. If , however, these "throw whimpers anguish" (citing biblical scripture from Psalm 55:17), elders "can help" to "bury bad experiences."
Original letter of the 23 of March of 1992 that was sent translated in Castilian to the old ones of Spain.
1994 shows a clarification in which it is dropped that exist "laws that force to report of the abuses to minors". However, instead of indicating that this is what should be done in congregations what the elders are commanded is "immediately available " with the "Department of Legal Affairs of the center".
In 1995 he insists that when an accusation of pedophilia appears, the elderly "should immediately" with the "Legal Department".
CREATE A CASE FILE
In 1997 the organization wants to know all cases of abuses that exist.To this end, he orders the elders to send a "report" in which, in addition to the personal data of pederast and victim, questions such as "How long has the person committed the sin?" s) victim (s)? "," what degree came? ". Such information" should be sent to the central "inside" an envelope color cane. "Such information" should not be made available to anyone outside the Matter, "he remarked.
In 2002 the letter introduces a relevant nuance. "Our position is this: Elders take care of sin and secular authorities, of crime. In order not to obstruct justice, the elders should not prevent or hinder any secular investigation of dishonest abuse of minors." However, the instruction on how to deal with a case of child abuse is always:"Contact with the Department of Legal Affairs". This body is responsible for providing "timely guidance in order to report the crime to the competent authorities".Letter showing that an internal pedophile archive was being built.
In 1998, it was clarified that these reports on cases within each congregation should be sent to the center even if the pederast had committed the crime "before being baptized" as a witness.
In 2006 and 2010 it again urges elders to "inform the Department of Legal Affairs" to any case of child sexual abuse.
DESTROY THE LETTERS
In 2012 it ordered that all letters with instructions on this crime (previously cited in this notice and for the years 1995, 1997, 1998, 2006 and 2010) should "be removed from the permanent archive of letters on procedures and destroy them ." It is added that "no one should keep originals or copies of any such letters". The content of this new letter clarifies for the first time explicitly that "under current Spanish legislation , " the elderly who attend an allegation of child abuse "may be forced" to make it known "by the authorities, as appropriate". The main order, however, remains unchanged: "Call the Department of Legal Affairs immediately."
The last letter, dated August 1, 2016 four months ago -he admits that "in some jurisdictions" the person who has knowledge of a crime of abuse "is obliged to inform the authorities." The only specific order on what To do is-again-to contact the plant.
STRICT RULES
The public commission in Australia has warned that hiding these abuses endangers children and found that only the Body of Eldersdome -the United States has "authority" to change these instructions because "not tolerated" That no branch has another way of acting.
Anderson explains that he has been collecting letters to different countries, such as Canada or the United Kingdom. "They are always the same," he says. However, as emphasized by an old man who remains in confession and requires anonymity, the "pattern" is always treat each case "a sin" and not "as a crime." And "of course" not reporting "to the competent authorities".
The Witnesses deny the concealment but have not denounced a case
The spokesman of Jehovah's Witnesses in Spain, Aníbal Matos, has not denied the existence of these letters with instructions on how to handle cases of pederasty, but he wanted to emphasize that the policy of the organization is to "urge" the affected family "to Denounce "this offense. The institution will take the initiative when the victim "is a child who is in a situation of defenselessness," he stressed. The latter, however, in Spain has not occurred to date. On the existence of a file with the names of all the sexual aggressors, Matos has emphasized that "it does not exist as such" and to call it "leads to misunderstandings". The letters addressed to the elders were intended to "help where it was possible to help," not to hide abuses within congregations, he insisted.
