video is entitled "beware of deceit" he uses the letter of jude to show that current day apostates are deceitful and that they use "trickery" to and "twist facts" to try to "grab our mind".
warning: your head might explode.
especially past the 5:30 mark.
Typical Bait and Switch reasoning!
Typical Strawman arguments!
He has presented a "supposed" argument of apostates, and masterfully shot it down!
Yet, he has misdirected attention away from the REAL issues that "apostates" would present!
Therefore, he has attempted to convince average witnesses that ALL issues opposer raise are false or irrelevant!
Twisted indeed! Didn't Satan supposedly use that type of distorted reasoning on Eve??
any idea what could have happened to song 151?
what logical reason could they have had to skip a number.
is the number 151 now an evil number accordig to new light?
Evidently Song 151 was just a symbolic song... It doesn't actually exist as revelation clearly shows....
my wife was playing the "stay loyal" convention that she taped the other day and i noticed the brother said something that wasn't in the outline.
during one of the talks friday on shunning he said "can you imagine if apostates were allowed to stay in the congregations?
the congregations would be a garbage heap instead of the spiritual paradise they are now.
If all "apostates" and ones who know it is not the truth stayed in the congregations, then the number of "witnesses" would be closer to 30 million!
Im sure there have been more who have LEFT the org than actual members still in!
"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.
"all of our publications are open to everyone.
we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".
It is an attempted "win-win" situation for the societies control over the flock!
Either you listen to them and "do not read it as it is a book exclusively for elders", or "you are a brazen, rebellious sinner" if you do sneak a read!
Either way, they try and win.
can a parent slap or use a "rod of discipline" on their kids?
i know it's politically incorrect and perhaps illegal, but is it a personal decision based upon the scriptures or is it taboo these days?.
Great article Paul!
Thanks for the link.
i decided i wanted to try to find my original user name on this site, and for some reason my memory decided to start working for a bit.
i finally found it, and back then i went by the name of irish rose.
i had picked that name because of my irish family history, and roses are my favorite flower.
Nice comments.
Yes, although we have chosen a different path now, it's healthy to look back on the life course that made us who we are, and allowed us to develop the relationships that we cherish.
Its also healthy to see that even negative experiences can help us in a positive way as our life unfolds...even if it is just teaching us what to avoid in the future.
every single bible student/jehovah's witness who has ever lived, has been indoctrinated to believe that a catastrophic great tribulation would very soon engulf the entire earth, causing untold death & destruction.
this spurious teaching is drummed into every j.w.
's head and used by them as a major recruitment tool.
That's a great point!
So even if it only meant the 1st century application, that comment of "never occur again" makes sense!
Nice thread!
"they don't have a secret elder's book" so said my mother.
"all of our publications are open to everyone.
we all have the same information and nothing is hidden in this religion.".
Oh dear...yes, that old reasoning is sadly a characteristic of most witnesses....
can a parent slap or use a "rod of discipline" on their kids?
i know it's politically incorrect and perhaps illegal, but is it a personal decision based upon the scriptures or is it taboo these days?.
During the Australian royal commission, one of the lines of questioning to Jackson was the societies view on corporal punishment.
He ducked and weaved and dodged the question until he was forced to give an answer.
He said "no, I don't personally agree with corporal punishment" which goes against the official society writings from years back...
i went to the hall with my wife on sunday.
i try to be there for my wife at some meetings.
because she is still neck deep in the beliefs and she understands my fading and doesn't.
yes, research the society publications....just NOT the older stuff. As Zoos rightly said already, only "current history" going back 10 years or so is available on the official site...so don't go past that!
