Welcome!
Yes, this community is a place full of ones who have woken up because of research...the information about the society is readily available for all who take the time to thoroughly research the history.
Wee look forward to your input here.
i just joined this sight today.
i'm hoping to find people here with similar experiences or have experience with similar situations or just any advise or feedback.. first.
my quick life story.. i was born into jw.
Welcome!
Yes, this community is a place full of ones who have woken up because of research...the information about the society is readily available for all who take the time to thoroughly research the history.
Wee look forward to your input here.
sunday, august 14. if she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons.—lev.
12:8.. according to the mosaic law, the israelites were to offer specific sacrifices.
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And of course the GB tell us that the mosaic law is no longer valid, and was replaced when Jesus came.....yet, whenever possible, they will still use sections from the mosaic law to try and prove some modern day point!
Either it is superseded , or it is not!
surely the gb aren't naive enough to believe their own lies.what does it take for the majority of j dubs to wake up to themselves and finally realize that they are being robbed on all levels emotionally.financially,spiritually,intellectually and many other aspects of their day to day lives..
As with most leaders of high control groups or regimes, sadly, they do believe it all 100%
had an enlightening discussion with my 20 something, baptised, awake son.
he said he feels abandoned by the religion, and yet trapped at the same time.
i had never thought about it that way before, but can totally understand where he is coming from.
Well said vidiot!
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.
They make the comment that "those found guilty by a judicial committee of the sin are removed from the congregation". Great, safeguard the cong....right?
As the Aust Royal Commission then skilfully pointed out: "So if you find someone guilty you disfellowship them from the cong to protect the cong...BUT what do you do to protect the community at large?"
To which Jackson said "well what can we do?"
The judges said "you can report them to the authorities!"
Silence.....
1 chronicles 18:4. .
na .
na .
fate, chance, divine retribution or sh*t happens?.
so i described a cordial conversation with my jw wife and super-duper jw mil last week in which they encouraged me to ‘return to jehovah’.
i told them that i would not be fooled thrice.. later that week we were discussing a fine mutual jw friend, ‘brother x’, that met with a very untimely death.
That reasoning of witnesses simply falls apart with just the slightest bit of logical thought...
They want their cake and eat it too!
If something bad happens, then it is "time and unforseen occurrence".
Or if it happens and can be spun as a marketing tool for the society, then they will twist it...
while i am not able to recall them all at this time, i remember so many instances that when a number was quoted in the bible, especially large numbers, they were all "rounded up" to the nearest hundred or thousand.
for instance the angel killed 185,000 syrians, not 184,879. sampson killed a thousand men with the jawbone of an ass, not 961. and on and on on the even rounded numbers.
i would guess that it could be agues that these numbers were correct but is that realistic?
Great thread!
Yet another nail in the coffin / straw to break the camels back etc....
All that believers can say is : " well, the bible says it is inspired of God and true, so it MUST be true!"
this week they finish up a chapter in the "imitate their faith" book about peter.
they cover the account of jesus walking on water.
in the story peter also walks on the water out to jesus.
Well said Smiddy!
wednesday, august 10. holy spirit has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the congregation of god.—acts 20:28.. it is important that we show appreciation for god’s arrangement for shepherding his flock.
christian elders are a provision from jehovah, who always acts in our best interests.
the elders are “like a hiding place from the wind, a place of concealment from the rainstorm, like streams of water in a waterless land, like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land.” (isa.
Yes indeed daringhart13!
I can verify that many times over! Oh the stories I could share about the way some elders spoke about members of the "flock"!
I pulled one up once by saying "do you think we should be so quick to judge our 'poor flaxen wicks and crushed reeds' in the congregation? We don't know their circumstances, and even if we did, we should always be kind!"
That was the beginning of the end for how I was treated by the rest of the body...