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  "Confidentiality" of Elders!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. experiences

  something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

  yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

  so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

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  I ran into an elder who I knew years ago in another part of the country the other day.

  He doesn't know I have been inactive for several years (and I didn't mention it)....but within a few minutes of small talk and catch up, he starts telling me juicy stuff about ones we used to know!

  I was friendly, but firm and said, "oh we probably shouldn't talk about them behind their back. Its not Christ-like to do so" and changed the subject...

  So the ingrained culture of gossiping is strong in the society....
  
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  Today I went to a JW cult meeting . Still recovering

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i went to a jw cult meeting .

  still recovering.

  congo i was raised in.

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  Its funny that you mentioned that only a few elders "know you are apostate", while the rest of the cong didn't know...

  In my case, the two elders that "know" I have been on this forum have made sure they have told any and everyone they possible can...so the gossip mill has made sure to demonise me locally.

  That despite the fact that I made it very clear to those elders that if they maligned my name or reputation, I would consider all legal avenues at my disposal....
  
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  Hello all

  by WhiskeySix in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am new to this site and wanted to say hi.

  my wife and i are recently disassociated.

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  stuckinarut2

  Welcome to the Real Life!

  We look forward to your input here in our community forum.
  
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  Can someone help me

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

  let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

  i love you.

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  stuckinarut2

  I echo all of the previous comments.

  Switch the "control" aspect by saying something brief like this:

  "Hi ____, I want to assure you that as always, my unconditional friendship remains open to you."

  Then leave it at that.

  It shows that you DO NOT have the issue, but that she has been influenced and manipulated to conform her own natural desires for a friendship by an external cult-like entity.
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  New study - JWs by far the least educated religious group in Canada, Australia and New Zealand

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the religion of the educated classes revisited: new religions, the nonreligious, and educational levels - james r. lewis .

  the measure lewis uses to compare religious groups is what percentage of members of the respective religions have graduated from college.

  the findings are similar to the results of the pew survey in the united states.

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  And from that graph, it shows that Athiests (47.63%) are the highest educated ones...

  So, just watch to see how the GB will spin that to PROVE that attending higher education erodes ones faith in God..."see, the stats don't lie: education causes people to question ancient fairy tales"
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  New to this. But not the life.

  by Irocz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just joined this sight today.

  i'm hoping to find people here with similar experiences or have experience with similar situations or just any advise or feedback.. first.

  my quick life story.. i was born into jw.

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  stuckinarut2

  Welcome!

  Yes, this community is a place full of ones who have woken up because of research...the information about the society is readily available for all who take the time to thoroughly research the history.

  Wee look forward to your input here.
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  Today's Text - Sacrifice To God!

  by Divergent in

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  2. friends

  sunday, august 14. if she cannot afford a sheep, she must then take two turtledoves or two young pigeons.—lev.

  12:8.. according to the mosaic law, the israelites were to offer specific sacrifices.

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  And of course the GB tell us that the mosaic law is no longer valid, and was replaced when Jesus came.....yet, whenever possible, they will still use sections from the mosaic law to try and prove some modern day point!

  Either it is superseded , or it is not!
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  The governing body are digging their own grave.

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  surely the gb aren't naive enough to believe their own lies.what does it take for the majority of j dubs to wake up to themselves and finally realize that they are being robbed on all levels emotionally.financially,spiritually,intellectually and many other aspects of their day to day lives..

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  As with most leaders of high control groups or regimes, sadly, they do believe it all 100%
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  Abandoned by JW and yet trapped

  by awake!watcher in

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  2. friends

  had an enlightening discussion with my 20 something, baptised, awake son.

  he said he feels abandoned by the religion, and yet trapped at the same time.

  i had never thought about it that way before, but can totally understand where he is coming from.

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  Well said vidiot!
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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  They make the comment that "those found guilty by a judicial committee of the sin are removed from the congregation". Great, safeguard the cong....right?

  As the Aust Royal Commission then skilfully pointed out: "So if you find someone guilty you disfellowship them from the cong to protect the cong...BUT what do you do to protect the community at large?"

  To which Jackson said "well what can we do?"

  The judges said "you can report them to the authorities!"

  Silence.....