lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.
i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.
eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.
Great opening post!
I have had a similar thing happen! I am well known in my local business community, and over the last few years I have had several clients comment that "You seem much happier and positive and less stressed or anxious"
One who knew I was a witness, asked one day "How is your local hall going?" To which I replied simply "Oh, I don't go there anymore" Her reply was priceless: "I Knew it! You are so much calmer and relaxed now. Well done"
had our midweek meeting last night.
they had a resolution to send an extra (i wanna say $1100 but i only remember it was at least $1000) per month to forward the kingdom preaching work etc.. you know how they work in the kh...no one votes against anything.
i abstained as i almost have always done.
Is that picture for REAL??
Seriously???
No...it cant be....surely?
i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .
please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?
simon.
Notice the common thread??
It is ALL about outward appearances!
just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
Thanks for posting that article finkelstein! Very good
as i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.
she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.
she found me on facebook.
How about:
"Mum, I did indeed put these matters to Jehovah, and he clearly guided me to follow the examples of ones in the bible book of Revelation who were told to "get out from amongst her, and quit touching the unclean things, so we don't share in the sins of an organization"
Too strong??
Or
"Mum, thanks for your sudden interest in my life. As you know, I take very seriously the Bible's command to "test the inspired expression" and to imitate the Boreans who "carefully examined the things taught" so as to please God. I put all these concerns to Jehovah and he has clearly shown me to step back from the organization while a cleansing takes place. I know that you would never want me to go contrary to his leadings, so I appreciate you respecting this process. As always, I love you. Your son"
3 questions i hit my jw mum with:.
first question: do you believe that god is love?
third question: do you think a god of love would choose to destroy me for not doing something i cannot do (be a jw) because i am not convinced rather than convince me beyond doubt?
Great comments!
I have done a similar thing when in conversation with witnesses.
By saying a line like "I prayed for Jehovah's direction, and it was clear that he wanted me to wait and see how the Australian Royal Commission was handled by the society," it shuts down their ability to argue it!
Because if they do argue it, they are trampling on the "guidance" I felt from God...
It traps them in their thinking....
You can apply that reasoning and line to any topic you like....
just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
How about :
If your conscience dictates certain decisions and those decisions just happened to coincide with exactly what the governing body says at a particular time ....
witnesses always claim to have a "bible trained conscience" yet they are really just watchtower robots who cant piss without checking with an elder or watchtower.
an elder who cuts hair was scared when i asked for a bald buzz cut since my hair was receding and grey.
he actually rang a bethel elder to see if this was okay watchtower wise!
So that is why we have a situation where a witness says it "goes against their conscience to have a pinata." Then the following year they say it no longer bothers their conscience to have a pinata
It's funny how their conscience just happens to coincide with the current ruling from the governing body
just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
Just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a High Control, or Cult-like group:
Feel free to add to the list:
The true sign of a cult-like group is:
hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.
"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".
i am so angry at this, what a load.
It is classic cult manipulation.
They make out that "It is YOUR fault that this is happening"
It is NO DIFFERENT to an abusive husband saying to his cowering wife "NOW Look what you made happen! I had to hit you because you made me do it!. Now you have hurt me by making me have to hit you"
