What xanthippe said above!
Dont meet.
Simply remember what appropriate boundaries are.... and you may need to remind them of those same appropriate boundaries
so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
What xanthippe said above!
Dont meet.
Simply remember what appropriate boundaries are.... and you may need to remind them of those same appropriate boundaries
never will the gb allow honest questions or doubts be raised, loyalty, loyalty,loyalty is their watchword, but if it did print qenuine readers questions, what would they be?.
Ok, I'll bite.
How about this question?
"So if Gods directs the society, was he asleep all those times they taught things that have proven to be wrong?"
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/tara-was-abused-by-the-man-she-was-taught-to-trust-most-now-she-wants-justice/news-story/50cf9dbf12e650ec22b9157e65e12db2.
fry watchtower fry!!!
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Disgusting!
Thanks for posting this Honest!
We wish Tara all the very best. May the society cop the financial penalty it deserves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhsigrwmtew.
i was invited to a congregation in ontario, canada today and as soon as the meeting opened the brother conducting the meeting said there was a very important statement coming from the borg.
this talk replaced the two last parts of "living as a christian" section.
he started reading a letter from the borg about how much they loved us.
Seriously disturbing stuff!
To try and spin this as "satanic propaganda" is downright manipulative and wrong!
As Honest said above, please send that letter to the Aust Royal Commission. They are the nicest people to talk to, and would welcome this sort of thing, as it gives an insight into the reality of how the society distorts facts.
thursday, december 8. take your stand against him, firm in the faith.—1 pet.
5:9.. to do that, we need to prepare our mind and heart, to train ourselves now to do what is right.
we do not know what our spiritual warfare may involve in the future.
Great thread and comments!
Yes, the FOG is strong indeed....(Fear Obligation Guilt)
not sure if this has been commented on, but while reading a discussion, deuteronomy 18:22 was mentioned.
i looked it up, and was struck by its connection to a remark made by geoffrey jackson during his arc testimony.
the gist of the scripture is that if a prophet declares something is from god and it doesn't come true, he is speaking presumptuously, and should not be feared.
Semantics really....
While they may not say they are "prophets" , they do say that they are "gods channel" and the only organisation "chosen by God".
So no matter how they spin it, they claim to speak for god.
That is no different to a "Prophet"
my sister called me quite out of the blue last night.
she's a full on active jw and actively shunning me like the rest of the family are.
i dont quite know the reason why she felt last night was the right time to call but im glad she did.
Yes, it is mind numbingly and astoundingly frustrating to try and reason with people who have a closed mind...or a "brainwashed mind"
And yes, it's outstanding to believe that we once were the same....arrogantly convinced that we alone "had the TRUTH"
right now, there are a lot of talks on this topic in quebec and, at the mid week meeting, they are reading the letter sent in 2002 where it states that the elders will call the authorities if the law forces them to.
the strange thing is, it looks like even when there are laws to that effect, jws seem to believe that it does not apply to them.
for instance, i know that they do not report anything in quebec, even if it is the law!
Why should it take a LAW to make people report such things?
Would it not be reasonable that the (god-given) conscience should prompt someone to report?
If one heard of an attempted or actual murder, does that need a LAW to prompt someone to report to the police??
i've been gone for a while doing other research, checking out other forums.. this forum is the first place i went when i very first started waking up and i just want to say thank you.
from the bottom of my heart thank you.. you guys were so helpful, so kind and so supportive.
you guys got me and were there for me when my whole world was crashing in on me.
Yes! This forum community has proven to be a powerful and life saving place.
Thanks to Simon for creating and hosting it, and thanks to everyone who helps one another out!