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  Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

  by Spoletta in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

  she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

  anyone else pick up on this?

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  stuckinarut2

  This MAY be a reference to the proposal that the Judge and Legal team of the Australian Royal Commission made.

  Namely, they strongly suggested that the organization should make provision for "qualified women" to sit in the investigative and supportive roles if a case of child or sexual abuse was to arise.

  They said it was wholly inappropriate for three men to be the ones to hear such sensitive matters. They said that it would be far better for a woman to assist in such situations.

  Of course, as Jackson said "there would be no room for Females to be appointed to a role of an elder or ms"
  
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  Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

  are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

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  How about the concept of "Guilt"?

  All religions, especially Christian ones subscribe to Guilt and Sin as being an integral part of life, and one that requires divine interaction to solve or "forgive"
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  All About The Words We Used

  by dubstepped in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

  i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

  watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

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  stuckinarut2

  "fleshly" brother, as opposed to a "spiritual" brother....

  You know, what a witness has to say to differentiate when talking of their literal "brother" (sibling)
  
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  Wife is Awake

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.

  i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.

  i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.

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  stuckinarut2

  AWESOME news freemindfade!

  In my case, I never thought this would actually happen you know.

  But we need to give credit to our spouses and family members who have their own thinking abilities and reasoning skills... (after all, doesn't the bible encourage ones to use their "powers of reason to prove truth"!?

  We just need to allow time, and never force things too quickly.

  Sincere love to you and your wife from us!
  
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  All About The Words We Used

  by dubstepped in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

  i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

  watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

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  stuckinarut2

  "Spirituality" = "how much Witness activity one engages in...."
  
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  Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

  january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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  stuckinarut2

  So if the Holy Spirit is supposedly directing the organization, why did it allow God's organization to have the spotlight shone on it??

  Yep...for any Witnesses out there, perhaps the answer is that Jehovah is bringing to light the deeply ingrained wrong culture of "his" organization and its leaders??!!
  
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  Has your name or reputation been maligned by the Witness gossip-mill?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".. they feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left jehovah's organization".. of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation.

  they may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

  however through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.. this sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.. but what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?.

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  stuckinarut2

  As we all know, witnesses routinely share in gossiping, slandering or maligning the name and reputation of those who are "spiritually weak" or ones who "fade" or "stop associating".

  They feel it is ok to speak badly of such ones who "have left Jehovah's organization".

  Of course, some of the worst perpetrators of this are Elders and their wives, who insidiously plant negative stories in the minds of all they interact with in the congregation. They may never have actual facts, but since when do facts matter to witnesses?

  However through such conduct they manage to separate people from one another, or cause rifts amongst former friends.

  This sort of conduct is plainly inappropriate.

  But what scriptures could be used if the opportunity arose to confront such ones about the way they have behaved?

  New Living Translation James 3:5
  In the same way, the tongue is a small thing that makes grand speeches. But a tiny spark can set a great forest on fire.

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  Aramaic Bible in Plain English Proverbs 26:17
  He that meddles in a case that is not his is like he that takes a dog by its ears.

  
  

  Feel free to add other scriptures that come to mind.
  
  
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  The re-writing of digital history....JW.org style. Interesting clip.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we all know that one of the major advantages the society now has with everything being on its official website, is the ability to quickly change content when they desire.. so older articles that show them to have made mistakes, are simply re-written or edited...or even just deleted!

  simple!

  "nothing to see here...carry on".

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  Yep, the hall we used to go to had a big clean-up one day, and about 4 large boxes of society books were to be "thrown on the tip"

  I protested and said "we were always told to "cherish our rich spiritual heritage", so we should keep these!

  I was told by several elders that "we only need to keep the current 10 years worth of material"

  Now, if that isn't re-writing history, and removing all awkward past material, then nothing is...
  
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  Let's compare, shall we

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  if you did a news search on google news today, jan. 15, 2017 what would you find it you typed in "jehovah's witnesses"?

  i did an analysis of news searches under the main christian religions in the us and this is what i found:.

  if you click on google news and type in the following religions' names and then look at the news headline for each of the and description with out actually clicking on it, but just just what google provides for a clip or snipet of information and then click on the next page and the next page until you got to 5 pages down in the news for today (jan 15, 2017) this is what i found for those news mentioning anything about "sexual abuse" of any kind per religion.. mormon 0 and latter day saints 0. catholic 1. presbyterian 0. lutheran 0. methodist 0. episcopal 0. protestant 0. evangelical 0. unitarian 0. jehovah's witnesses 6. pretty interesting that the jw's get more about sexual abuse than any other major religion in the us isn't it?

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  stuckinarut2

  Its all "apostate driven lies"!
  
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  Occupations that will disappear

  by joker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while growing up in the cult one thing that always bothered me was the way witnesses could forecast jobs/occupations that we're going to vanish in their new world.. for example, we would usually discuss at saturday night wt studies how doctors, nurses, funeral directors, and soldiers would go the way of the dodo.

  i always found discussions like that just so strange.. in hs, i mounted an unsuccessful effort to enter veterinary sciences, the big answer was always "why" it won't be needed after armageddon 😝😜.

  does anyone have their own story about professions that the witnesses believe will not be needed after the big a ?.

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  stuckinarut2

  Veterinary sciences wont be needed in the new world?? How silly of whoever told you that.

  Animals wont be perfect, and of course would need qualified human assistance!

  (That is of course assuming that the paradise is real)