And as many of us who have simply faded out (not DA or DF) will attest, preemptive shunning takes place!
The ARC know that fact, and were obviously frustrated at the lack of honesty by Spinks and O'Brien.
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
And as many of us who have simply faded out (not DA or DF) will attest, preemptive shunning takes place!
The ARC know that fact, and were obviously frustrated at the lack of honesty by Spinks and O'Brien.
what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
Well, didn't Jesus say that when hauled before judges, He and Jehovah would help with the words to say?
Well, it seems that Jesus and Jehovah were asleep today!
i don't have to go very often, but last time i took my mother they were singing songs off a screen.
the numbers weren't the same as the songs with the same number on my tablet.
seemed like a lot of people were confused, but a couple of more gregarious attendees were singing (and swaying a bit) "church-style".
This religion has morphed into something so different to what it was just a decade ago.....
once again, the arc has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.. the "brothers" tried to state that it was the choice of the indiviual who steps away from the organization to shun them!
they actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
then they tried to say that those who fade are not shunned!.
Once again, the ARC has brilliantly highlighted the reality that any witness who either fades or disassociates is subjected to active official shunning by the organization.
The "brothers" tried to state that it was the CHOICE of the INDIVIUAL who steps AWAY from the organization to SHUN THEM! They actually tried to make it out to be the fault of the one who leaves!
Then they tried to say that those who fade are NOT shunned!
What absolute liars! We know the culture and conduct of the organization!
what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
I hope to be in attendance at the event
(i wanted to put this in the child abuse section of the forum!).
we have seen that during the march 2017 broadcast, m stephen lett has openly praised children who get baptised as young as 10!.
so lets summarize why it is wrong to push child baptism (not far off "infant baptism" that jws condemn other churches for).
(I wanted to put this in the child abuse section of the forum!)
We have seen that during the March 2017 broadcast, M Stephen Lett has openly praised children who get baptised as young as 10!
So lets summarize why it is wrong to push CHILD baptism (not far off "Infant Baptism" that JWs condemn other churches for)
Shall we go on??
Please feel free to add to the list!
So here the society is actively using witness peer pressure to "encourage" all young children to get baptised. The results of which have FAR reaching implications if they ever change their minds as they grow.
A child can not fully understand the importance of such a step, nor its effects on their lives. Heck, a child cant even understand the doctrines or history of the organization that they are committing to at that age!
Seriously GB, you should be ashamed of yourselves for scraping the barrel like this all in the name of trying to make the numbers seem like they are growing! If witnesses didn't have kids (which was actively discouraged remember), then there would be no growth, as most comes from born-ins!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b0d-uj0uvjrasknuagrmd0vixza/view.
interesting reading.
a few things i learned from reading this that i wasn't aware of when i was a jw:.
Wow! That's great.
So once again, just as the scribes and Pharisees did in Jesus day, the society has ADDED to the bible. The scriptures obviously are not sufficient, but require a CONFIDENTIAL document to be created in order to explain things....
Yes, they "have made the word of god invalid by their traditions"
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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Good question pubsinger. We haven't heard anything about that as yet.
http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
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Yes, I see that they have not included the lying bethelite lawyer "Vincent Toole" this time!
Just as well, in case he was again asked if he knew what "theocratic warfare" was!
these are the books that led to my awakening:.
the art of thinking clearly - rolf dobelli.
how to defend the christian faith: advice from an evolutionist - john w.loftus.
Great thread!
I am also enjoying "the reluctant apostate" by Lloyd Evans